, in the northern city of haifa.nd they don't have any territorial claim. they're not saying give thus city and we'll make peace. nay just said we want to kill you. we don't want your state to be there. and then i realized that i'm not going to go back into high-tech, which actually is my passion-- i always had a vision of building an israeli nokia, which is no longer a good idea. and then i joined then-opposition leader benjamin netanyahu as his chief of staff for a couple years, went back to high-tech, and then ultimately, formed this party and ran in the elections and we did fairly well. >> rose: but not as well as expected. some people thought you'd do better. >> i'm very pleased. actually, i sort of took over an existing party -- >> you you were the talk of the campaign and then lapid did much better than people expected him to do. he became the story. >> that's correct. and the party the that i led exs already 100 years, predates israel. it was the religious people, you know, those with the yarmulke, and i came