joining us now for the interview is wisconsin state senator john erpenbach, who it should be noted becamemocrats everywhere in the huge fight over union rights in wisconsin. senator, nice to see you again. thanks for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> so, when you threatened all out hell if they moved these bills tomorrow without a public hearing, what did you mean and why did you say that? >> well, i was really frustrated with the whole process during the committee hearing because they tried to take the assembly bill and make it like the senate bill and saying there was no change at all, when in fact there was a huge change, what you alluded to earlier, that certain employers would have to give employees permission to use contraception under certain scenarios, which was very frustrating, because if the public knew, they would be outraged. the idea of the all out hell was basically making sure we took our time concisely but loudly to let people of wisconsin know exactly what the senate republicans were up to with this legislation. >> do you think you have just stopped it for the minute,

response to this amazing antiabortion, anticontraception bill, one democratic state senator, john erpenbachposes both bills, promises all-out hell if republicans stuck to their plan to take out these bills without a public hearing. presumably, by that, he meant an all out hell session similar to the one wisconsin had on these issues back in june. [ inaudible ] >> you're interrupting a roll call. sit down! right now! call the roll. >> senator carpenter. colin -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> you're interrupting a roll call, and that will not be tolerated! sit down! >> oh, wisconsin nice. that guy with the glasses completely losing his mind, that's the republican president of the state senate, senator mike ellis. he was slamming his gavel so hard that day, trying so hard to shut everybody up, to pass a bill forcing wisconsin women to undergo a state-ordered medically unnecessary ultrasound that he literally broke the base of his gavel by pounding it that hard. he broke it! and that is the type of session that was promised by the democrats tomorrow, if the republicans went ahead with the ask