see now is you've seen bill gates, president obama, jeffrey sax, richard branson, paul allen, nathan morville, leading climate scientists saying we need nuclear energy because we can't bet the planet on solar which provides 1/10th of one% and on wind totally dependent on federal subsidies. that is a very dangerous bet. >> let's talk about dangerous. >> this is ridiculous what he's saying. warren buffett by the way says nuclear power is uneconomical. okay. go ahead. >> so when they built fukushima, and chernobyl, when they built three mile, they said it was a one in 10,000 odds that there would be a meltdown. and now we've had three meltdowns in 35 years in three countries. would you take those odds to las vegas today? one in 10,000? >> well, so first of all, i was eight years old when three mile island happened. i don't really feel like i should be responsible for whatever claims people were making when i was a baby. there's accidents in every energy industry. it's studied really carefully by the international energy aso, world health organization, articles in lancet. ralph can speculate all