and talk to us about the knights templar. should we be treating them as a legitimate business now with legitimate funds some. >> no, i think you should treat them as an illegitimate business using illegitimate fund. today important to know that the modus operandi of the knights templar, from what i gather, it seems to be not very different from that of other cartels and drug trafficking organizations that have risen in the past, whether it be the brothers in the late 80s, the la familia. they are businesses, and they look for any advantage, just like you know, just like any advantages they can have over the government by -- and the authorities, by donating to the people, employing the people, extorting people tainment, but sometimes that extortion comes with benefits. and you're looking at a society, mexico is used to institutional corruption, whether it be a cop bribing you or a member of the knights templar bribing you for your own safety, for your prosperity. it's not that new a business model basically in my opinion. >> y

first of all, what are your thoughts on the knight templar. let's build a little back story on this group. it's one of a number of cartels, but how bad are these actors? >> these guys are some of the most brutish, thugish cartels in mexico, and that's saying a lot. they're trying to control the corridors through which cocaine passes through united states. they're infamous for assassinations, literally decapitating people and rolling their heads on the discotheques. they have been guilty of heinous crimes. >> you have these vigilanty groups now that who are taking these groups on. >> what it says is there is frustration. the last administration under calderÓn in 2006 he launched all-out war against narcotics trafficking, basically led a military unit to where the knights templar are active, but the cost was 60,000 people have been killed in mexico so far. now people are fed up. they're caught between the government being ineffective and very brutal and thugish cartel. >> is it how it sounds? are we talking about communities banding together and

. >> two of the best in division ii with both winston salem state, but after a fight between the templarsone of those teams is headed to the playoffs. during last friday's team banquet, ciaa champion game, players from virginia state allegedly jumped the quarterback in a restroom, as a result, not only was the conference game canceled but the cia also banned virginia state from participating in any post season games this year. who spoke today for the first time since the incident. >> i am going to wash my hands and somebody tapped me on my back and my shoulder. as soon as i turned around i got hit. hit me on my blind side and that's when i fell, and i fell about four or five feet. stomping on me and kicking me. a black eye, and hit on the side of my head. that does not define who we are, it does not defy our student body. so as we move forward we will continue to work vehemently continuously improving the decision making of our students. as the league lead investigator met with several players in davey florida. he spoke with jonathan martin and his interviews with coaches could last sever

from any other diocese in mexico, saying specific criminal groups, even naming them, like the ninth templaresponsible for the violence and calling on the federal government to come in and stop the rye lens now. across from the church is where people took cover on october 26 as shots range out when vigilante groups marched. for months, the self defense forces avoided the town because of the drug cartel. they started a fight back. the mayor of the town said the town isn't a cartel-based, but acknowledges violence nearby. >> there have been a lot of killings, a wave of violence between the groups as they fight for territory. >> this doctor is one of the vigilante's leaders. for safety's sake, we had to meet him an hour's drive away. he's one of the leaders pushing for the arrest of cartel leaders. he said the economy depends on it. >> if we let these criminals keep the hold, it will be worse, because they took control of all our packing plants. >> if the government doesn't bring the cartel down, he and his men will set up, a move which threatens more blood shed. caught in the middle are people