. >> congressman trey gowdy, member of the house oversight judiciary committees. he chairs the immigration and border security subcommittee. congressman, great to have you with us. let's start with, if we may, obama care. this president lied. his administration lied. and persisted over a period of more than three years in maintaining the fiction that people could keep their insurance plans if they chose. your reaction? >> well, i hate it for my fellow citizens, but there were lots of voices warning that what he was saying was just not going to be a true or a lie or mendacious or whatever synonym you want to use. and that's not the only mischaracterization. your premiums are going to be higher, and your coverage is going to be worse. you would think at a certain point, politics aside, that people would get tired to by being lied to by people in positions of power whether that's the president, the head of the nas, the attorney general, but we had an election a couple years ago, and the calls in part, he perpetrated this myth, he was re-elected. >> and speaking of my

back in 2012 congressman trey gowdy grilled h.h.s. secretary kathleen sebelius on that very issue. >> don't awe agree with me that government can't enforce religious beliefs on its citizens. >> yes, sir. >> why can't they not do that. >> why can government not force religious beliefs? >> yeah. what's the basis of that. >> the separation of church and state. >> well, it's the constitution, right? , the first amendment. can government decide which religious beliefs are acceptable and not acceptable? >> no, sir. >> and why can they not do that? >> it's part of our constitution. >> congressman trey gowdy joins us now. congressman, kathleen sebelius mentioned the constitution. but it it seemed like this administration has a pretty perverse interpretation of what the constitution means. they believe that everyone has a right or women should have the right to reproductive care and contraception. but, isn't the constitution there to protect people's religious beliefs? >> yes, it is. you wouldn't expect kathleen sebelius to know that because s

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congressman trey gowdy joins us next. >>> the first obama administration official testifying before a house committee about the botched obama care rollout has apologized, weakly, but then she maintained the kris acceptable, incredibly, is working. listen to marilyn tavenner construct what is at the very least ahn alternative universe. >> we have a system that's working. we're going to improve the speed of that system. >> excuse me. >> yes? >> you're saying the system right now is working? >> i'm saying it's working. it's just not working at the speed that we want and at the success rate that we want. and those are the things we're working on. >> congressman trey gowdy, member of the house oversight judiciary committees. he chairs the immigration and border security subcommittee. congressman, great to have you with us. let's start with, if we may, obama care. this president lied. his administration lied. and persisted over a period of more than three years in maintaining the fiction that people could keep their insurance plans if they chose. your reaction? >> well, i hate it for my fel

representative trey gowdy, thank you so much for being with us. good to see you. >> yes, sir.ll, health care, of course, remains front and center today. from canceled insurance policies to sky-high deductibles that people are starting to experience, more americans are starting to feel, for better or worse, the effects of what obamacare will look like. we'll going to hear from some people who say all they can do now is just hope for the best. gregg: "forbes" magazine named russian president vladimir putin the most powerful person on the planet ahead of barack obama. what does that say about america's standing in the world or lack thereof? ♪ ♪ :: female narrator: the mattress price wars are ending soon the mattress price wars are ending soon at sleep train. we've challenged the manufacturers to offer even lower prices. now it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with big savings of up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing, plus free same-day delivery, setup, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save. m

host: we are joined now by trey gowdy. joining us.r speaker john boehner has said he went not take up the immigration session.ll this international business times republican house of representatives does not want an immigration reform bill that looks like the senate's. what will we see in an immigration bill? guest: we passed the safe act, which provides internal security. verify -- e-ve rify and a highly skilled visa bill. we had hearings last week on the injury exit visa system. if the affordable care act has taught us anything, it is that there is not much appetite for large pieces of legislation that are not easily understood. all of your viewers would concede that there is a big difference between high skilled that tech companies might want and the safe act, which law enforcement needs to enforce immigration law. you put those two pieces of legislation together that have nothing to do with one another? host: the bill provides double side of the border control. why do you prefer the piecemeal approach? guest: i am a fo

congressman trey gowdy on the oversight committee what they want to hear this week. he is live next. martha: a birthday party over the weekend ended in complete chaos and tragedy. 20 people were shot and two teenagers lost their lives at a birthday party. we'll tell you the details. bill: richie incognito, he is talking in an exclusion tiff interview with fox sports. he says the world has him all wrong. >> i can just sit here and be accountable for my actions and my actions were coming from a place of love. no matter how bad and how vulgar it sound, that is how we communicate. that is how our friendship was. martha: well two teenagers are dead after a house party in houston went horribly wrong. police say it started as an birthday party for an 18-year-old girl but quickly erupted into chaos as after two people opened fire in the house. people say the situations at very least was unnerving. listen to this. >> i heard between five and 10 gunshots. and scared as you little bit. had the kids go upstairs with the wife and came out to the front window to see what the commo

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south carolina republican trey gowdy wanted a timeline. >> when will it be operational to your satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're working hard to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> reporter: that carefully crafted answer which was repeated more than once led some lawmakers to believe that the administration's confidence that it can rl0eá satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're working hard to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> reporter: that carefully crafted answer which was repeated more than once led some lawmakers to believe that the administration's confidence that it can really get all to your satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're working hard to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> reporter: that

trey gowdy is here and he has been involved in the course of the rollout.ng. >> we don't know what the president is going to say. i am preface this by saying a report from the wall treat journal that says the president plans to allow people to get the coverage back that was canceled and that substandard policy will be available to people if that is what they want; but they have to come with information attached to them that says you should shop on the government plan because it might offer you more. what do you think about that? >> i assume the office has the now about to dictate what the companies offer. are you going to believe what he tells you in an hour? 27 different times he told us you and i would never be having this conversation. and he said period. are you going to believe what he tells you this morning? or is this a political remedy because his dream of retaking the house has turned into the nightmare of loosing the senate because half of the people he works for don't believe him. >> that is an interesting questi question. and fox news has confir

here's south carolina congressman trey gowdy. >> i want to know why we were promise ad state-of-the-art website and we got an abacus and sun dial. can this thing be fixed in two months why didn't you have it up and running in three years prior to october 1st. >> president obama said to have been angry at being blind sided by the website's problems. the "new york times" quotes an unnamed aide as saying mr. obama told that person quote, if i had known we could have delayed the website. now there's concern here at the white house the president will be trapped by a daily unfolding bad news story like the deepwater horizon oil spill when republicans asked virtually every day is it fixed yet. bill clinton's former chief of staff leon panetta says the mistake was entrusting the health and human services bureaucracy. >> you cannot rely on the bureaucracies to do this kind of work. i mean, you know, they are good people, they are dedicated but very freeze warningly they are not the ones that really have the capability to, in fact, get this done. >> but he said he would bring the website out of t

. >> and republican congressman trey gowdy joins us. of course, he is on that committee. so what did you learn today? >> not much. five minutes isn't long to unlock the histories of the universe. i still can't tell you why they went on october the 1st. that's not the law. that's artificial date that kathleen sebelius picked. we weren't ready to go on october 1st. we spent offer half a billion dollars. 30 months to get the web sight up and running and todd park is supposed to get it fixed in less than two months. i know, this i'm not convinced about the security all of that is web site. two thirds of the people who window shop decided to go somewhere else secretary sebelius had a conference call with anybody who wanted it to sign on. numbers were worse than anyone ever thought they could be. she said not reonce but repeatedly. marketplace is working and people are enrolling. she seemed quite content and she added that she expects enrollment to grow. you and i were in the courtroom a lo. say it enough believe it she would be the only one in the western hemisphere who believ

republican congressman trey gowdy demands answers because of that and more. >> why didn't they ask fory? we don't know how much more money is going to be involved. i know this, we haven't even gotten into the security, we haven't even gotten into whether or not your personal information is going to be protected. we're just trying to get on the web site at this point. martha: jonah gold with berg, editor -- goldberg with the national review online joins me now. good to have you here. >> morning. martha: you know, you take a look at what mr. chao says first, and there's reason to think this is part of a bigger movement of we'll call it cya in this situation, as everybody's starting to scramble to say, gee, i had no idea ask pointing fingers. but it's pretty shocking when you see this september 3rd memo, and the moment mow say that is the threat and risk potential to the system is limitless, and he goes on to say when he was shown this risk memo, he said i just want to say i never saw this memo. never saw it. and yet he was the person who said we are good to go on october 1. >> yeah, look

. >> reporter: under questioning from south carolina republican trey gowdy, the white house todd park offers no guarantees. >> when will it be operational to your satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're looking to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> another rinkle, four times as many americans signed up entirely funded by the government have signed up for private insurance overtime that could affect the financial stability of the law. later today they'll meet with senate democrats. for the first time they announced they will open to a legislati legislative, not administrative fix. charlie and norah? >> thank you, major. with us, cbs political analyst john dickerson, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> let's begin with the numbers. what do they tell us and what do they not tell us? >> they're bad as everybody thought they would be and in a sense that's an old story. what the numbers don't tell us is the health of the website. if you look at the number

and at 8:20 eastern, we'll be joined by representative trey gowdy, a south carolina republican, chairman of the judiciary subcommittee on immigration and border security. lex breaking overnight, afghanistan president says he supports an emerging deal that could keep u.s. troops in the country until 2024. welcome to the washington journal on this thursday, november 21. beginning with the news out of the senate. harry reid reportedly moving closer to the nuclear option that would save --

. >> reporter: under questioning from south carolina republican trey gowdy, the white house todd park offers no guarantees. >> when will it be operational to your satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're looking to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> another rinkle, four times as many americans signed up entirely funded by the government have signed up for private insurance overtime that could affect the financial stability of the law. later today they'll meet with senate democrats. for the first time they announced they will open to a legislati legislative, not administrative fix. charlie and norah? >> thank you, major. with us, cbs political analyst john dickerson, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> let's begin with the numbers. what do they tell us and what do they not tell us? >> they're bad as everybody thought they would be and in a sense that's an old story. what the numbers don't tell us is the health of the website. if you look at the number

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trey gowdy on the fix for obamacare mess on greta last night. >> the president likes to say electionsare punished. if i can bring relief to people despite the anything like that that we warned them ahead of time this isn't going to work, i will do it. but we're so far down this train track now, you're right, you can't tell insurance companies what product to offer. you can't go back and reoffer canceled policies. so this is what happens when you base a campaign on a fundamental lie. >> okay. so he referred it as a fundamental lie. you know, where you're talking about the president of the united states who lied to get reelected, we've got a brand-new poll out that how many people feel this way? president obama telling the americans they could keep their health plans. did he knowingly lie? half the country, 50% say yes, the president of the united states knowingly lied. 40% say he did not know. when it comes to the administration, has the administration been honest with americans about the health care law? 55% say the administration has tried to deceive. 40% say the administration has b