often spoke about the fact that watching how we successfully change things with nonviolence exist, andrumentto the pressure we were experiencing, it gave him a sense of what his mission could be like. he also referred to the fact had said in using nonviolence, from the origins, he was inspired. here was a man with the most trained military force, military -- military force in the continent of africa. well trained and equipped and capable of creating a great deal of mayhem, but with all that power and those skills at his disposal, he always cautioned violence, as a solution, as a solution to the grievances of the people of south africa and what they were experiencing. i think when he was released, one of the first things he talked about, along with archbishop desmond tutu, the idea that we would use a nonviolent environment in which to discuss the history of south africa up until that moment, but and how to govern the state and bring the country into a state of wholesomeness. this was an incredible moment in human history. tavis: we continue in our tribute to nelson mandela, talking to our fr