too long however pole booker is clearly portrayed as the hero in your film how do you feel about bowker's latest act of valor the volcker rule coming to fruition this week you know i think we will really know until maybe years from now how the volcker rule works i know he was lobbying for some harder you know rules that i think congress or the lobbies really wanted i think the end result was kind of a draw and i think really you know we'll see what happens in terms of the regulation that comes out of the vocal rule it's really just kind of a start to the process i think you know regulation is such a hard thing to do what i think i think at least the rules a step in the right direction the question is is what comes of it i think we really will know and i want to ask you how you feel about stanley fischer the former head of the bank of israel being named number two at the federal reserve. you know i think as many people have noted he was ben bernanke his advisor at mit so i think to me it's just it's it's what i a little bit worry about is is just more of the same you know i think it in our

the best rules in life are to the point and at first the bowker all seem promising don't let banks gamble with customer money. but to no surprise it's much easier said than done now after three years and many many missed lines the vocal rule finally came to fruition last week now lobbyists activists and advocates from both sides are combing through the rule so who exactly are the winners and the losers joining me now alexis goldstein former v.p. of merrill lynch an occupy wall street activist and general know everything wall street. thank you for being here and now i want to start off by asking you under the volcker rule only three percent of the bank's total assets can be invested in hedge funds and private equity funds however you see a problem with this you say it's because of the way that bank employees are paid and they're paid for something that is carried interest can you explain the issue that you have with carried interest so carried interest is basically the way that private equity fund managers get paid in the ideas instead of taking some of their money and investing in the fun