cathy lenz, and i have a degree in hort culture from the city college. and my specialty was pruning and small trees, 25 feet and under. i contacted a second arborist because although we agree, at least two of the three trees can be preserved, our original arborist i did not feel did a good job. so i got a report which i submitted to the board. and commissioners, from ted kiplin who is in my opinion, one of the best tree people in the bay area. and so i refer you to that. and i submitted it. and i want to start with the first tree, on gonzales, 605. here it is. photo. >> well, okay. there is the photo. and i am happy if my testimony is not witness enough to contact ted and have him come in. and it was very expensive to get him, and to come in it would have been another 500. and i thought that i could prevent it. >> with 79 percent of all of the large trees in the city, being removed, i think that everything should be done to preserve the trees that we have. replanting it will not bring these trees back. ted gives 70 percent chance that this tree can be sa