second hand smoke, where the mothers -- christopher hutchens said where are the mothers with signs outsideng, my son died from all of your secondhand smoke? i never saw any. thirdhand smoke. illegal in certain states the smoke at home. >> i know. >> illegal to smoke in your car. >> yeah. thirdhand smoke -- what? >> all "red eye" fans are smokers. >> my bad. >> yeah. >> you want to get back on the show, defend smoking. >> andy, yeah, you are an e-cig smoker and i am. the law is against us because the cigarettes look like real cigarettes. that's almost like saying men can no longer cross dress because somebody might mistake you for a woman and nobody would go for that. >> well, interesting -- >> i won't go for that. >> i don't care about the e-cig stuff. don't take away the dresses. gavin pointing out the ban, secondhand smoke stuff, none of this was ever about health but a class of people that get off on controlling other people and it's honestly it's a sickness. i believe it's a mental illness. >> should it be curtailed? >> lock it up. like that does anything. seems cooler to young kids. >