proud and how happy she was to be here and she hoped that they would vote for her husband. >> and cokie roberts right behind lady bird johnson. >> cokie mentioned how controversial this was. was it really a tough job selling this to the congress and was it a difficult job at the lobbying group? the billboard lobby was far too strong. >> i think we forget how strong it was. i think maybe now the judgment is she tried to do too much on that. it was very hard. but she did. >> in washington, people don't realize this beautiful city we live in is much more beautiful because of her and mary lasker, her friend was a wonderful philanthropist. this profusion of flowers and trees and the fact that you just come into the city and are greeted by total beauty is a result of her having been here. >> this was a complement to lyndon johnson's great society programs or was it an independent campaign? >> it was a little of both. i think it was required of every first lady since her, what would be her project. michelle obama was asked that even before the nomination. it was a complement to the great society and a

cokie roberts and sam stein are still with us.tor and host of the daily rundown, chuck todd. >> the patience of chuck todd. >> mika walks off, she's done. wait three hours, she says, woah, like fred flintstone. >> i am. also with us -- >> couldn't get it all in? is. >> can't stop. it's because he was in the house with the five minute rule and now he has the whole --s. >> can't stop. it's because he was in the house with the five minute rule and now he has the whole --. >> can't stop. it's because he was in the house with the five minute rule and now he has the whole -- >> can't stop. it's because he was in the house with the five minute rule and now he has the whole -- >> can ci introduce our next guess? republican senator from georgia senator saxby chambliss. good to have you on the show. >> you all are having so much fun on thursday mornings and i just showed up. this is great. >> this is awesome. how is your farewell tour going? is it like dr. j? >> i have so many plaques. >> a lot of plaques. >> everybody likes you when you're

robert reich, the former labor secretary, republican strategist ana navarro from cnn, and abc's own cokie robertsso, speaker gingrich, the headline here is, there won't be a shutdown for at least two years. the republican party learned its lesson? is that what happened? >> i think it's clear they didn't work. in that sense they learned a lesson. i think this is brilliant politics. >> on whose part? >> on the republican part. it strips away the danger that people will notice anything but obamacare. and the longer the country watches obamacare, the more likely the democrats are to lose the senate. from the republican standpoint, if you can get to january 15th, and have eight or nine new senators, and say 20 more house members, that gives you enormously more leverage for shaping '16. >> so, if you were speaker of house, would you have done what boehner did here? >> if i was a speaker i would have run -- >> you were there? >> i was there. >> you remember when john boehner was the junior member, fighting you. >> i also remember later in my career i blew up exactly like he did. i think it's healthy. th