notice how the turkey goes in and i'm taking a video and john campbell, he runs away.o i thought oh, my god is it going to blow up? >> how long did he fry it? >> 40 minutes. >> what's he doing? >> i thought my god maybe i should back off. >> how did it taste? did it taste like a big french fry? >> no. it was good. >> crispy on the outside? >> it was good. >> golden brown on the outside. >> you went to the jets game yesterday. >> went to the jets game. and it was fun. they lost but they are so nice. >> the jets. >> yeah. >> you had time yesterday. >> we didn't fry anything. i'm hoping my husband done ever decide to try that because it's one very small fire department in our town and i don't want to be -- >> get out in the yard. >> and run away like john campbell did. he's a kourjs guy. >> you had a nice gathering? >> we had a great gathering until saturday. >> big success. >> was there a football game on this weekend inwe have robert gibbs. we specifically invited robert gibbs here. >> oh. >> come as you are. >> he's wearing what he happened -- >> this is what happens w

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joining me to talk about mandela's influence on south africa and the continent as a whole, is john campbellhe is a senior fellow for african policy studies. it is good to see you, thank you for your time, sir. >> so what are your thoughts on the conversation i was just having with mick? moving forward, an election, april or so of 2014, so the country gets an opportunity to either stay the course, or chart a new course. >> right. >> with the issues we have talked about. >> right. >> inequality, dispairs in education, wealth, income, what do you see as the immediate future for this country after this this morning period ends. >> the issue is what are the alternatives. up until now, voting has been a racial census. in other words the 80% of the population that is black has voted overwhelmingly for the anc. the opposition party has been predominately white. so unless or until south africa breaks out of that particular mold, it is difficult to bring about rapid change. so is it too much to ask, the people in townships, is it too much to ask of the government, 20 years of afc rule, to have brough

according to john campbell, a senior fellow at the council of , nelsonrelations mandela is a nonracialording to the rule of law pt is the president of the consulates of foreign relations. ambassador, this moment has been a long time coming. what is the view forward? >> south africa was the beneficiary for two grateful things. first was the peaceful transition of apartheid to a new political system and his own willingness to live -- and to give up political power after one term as president. the problem has been since then, the challenge is institutionalizing them up or see, making it a viable economy. -- institutionalizing democracy, making it a viable economy. >> what could be a positive u.s. policy e we have paid lip service but is very tangible projection of washington to benefit south africa and the rest of the sub-saharan continent? >> absolutely. africa will grow south of the , five percent. i think the real possibility is with the growing trade to the u.s. market. we are beginning to see private investment, private equity, and other forms of investment going into south of the sa

campbell. and robert move backby and those filing past mandela. we have seen tears, john, outward signs of the grief that people feel. i think it was a sign that this was a man loved byall. all walks of life. heads of government, heads of state. leaders of pop culture and snow biz all here to pay their respects. john, i really wanto mark one moment that really stood out to me. and that was seeing nelson mandela's widow grash sha mi michelle. and she was just sobbing. you could see she lost her partner. he was ill. he was old. people had been preparing themselves for this. but the reality of seeing his remains really brings it home to them. they're the father of this democracy and the pillar of the mandela family has gone. john. >> it's such a public event this week, it's nice that people are having private moments to say good-bye. isha sesay in pretoria, thanks. appreciate that. >>> ten minutes after the hour. coming up, al qaeda moves into syria. the terror group making a claim in the country's civil war as journalists and human rights activists are missing. we'r live wi

but john, when the government gets involved in the private sector, is that when the consumer really pays? >> you think? this is like going to the town drunk and asking him how to get sober. otis campbelloesn't teach sobriety campbells. a government that can't build a website, you want to talk to em about hacking? 47% of the fraud in the united states is despite 24% of the usage. computer chips would help that. that's what we need to go to. as far as the ups, they hired 55,000 part-time workers, 23 extra jets, they still underestimated demand. the market will deal with them. congress dealing with them, good lord, get your own house in order, guys. >> all right. what do you say to that, david? >> i think it's ridiculous, a company, target or ups or any other, has to wait for a congressman or senator to say hey, how about tend to your customers, protect them against breaches on private data and give them a refund when you don't deliver on the promises that you said you would commit to with your customers. so go ahead and be like amazon, give your customers a refund and then work to protect your data. then we won't need government to tell us what to do or to tell them what to do. just do

campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. >>> i've been raped. i've been beaten. i've been rob and stabbed. stabbed in my neck and stabbed in my back by a john cook county's task force arrests and prosecutes pimps, advocates like chicago's coalition for the homeless work to empower women recently freed from sex slavery. >> thank you. >> this summer at a vigil, they celebrated the success of victims who have survived. at first glance, tammy's gentle demeanor doesn't seem to distinguish her from any other middle-aged mother of three. but look closely and you'll find scars, physical and emotional. collected from seven years of being raped, sold and exploited. >> i look at the scars i have and it's hard to believe that actually did happen. i really did go through those things. >> tammy's downward spiral began here in a quiet michigan community. after marrying her high school sweetheart, she worked part time as a welder, raising three boys, but in 2002, her life took an unexpected turn. >> i was introduced to crack cocaine, and that led me down hard. >> addiction to meth soon followed. tammy divorced and lost custody of her sons, ages 3, 4 and 14

today for the san jose man who pleaded guilty to murdering a 22-year-old campbell man during a crime spree last year. 27-year-old johner an electrical short on a crowded train caused chaos in the berkeley hills tunnel yesterday. the emergency breaking gauged on the moving train stopping the train sending smoke and dust into the crowded cars. bart says its 40-year-old trains and infrastructure need to be replaced. transportation dollars will cover some costs, but bart is expected to ask voters to approve a rageal bond measure to fund the rest. we'll have a look at weather right after the break. >> good thursday morning to you. it's going to be cold all day long with temperatures only reaching into the 50s. just want to show you the east bay. a little hazy out there. as we get into friday, some changes is it just around the corner. damaging frost once again, and thn they know as we head through friday night into saturday, look at what happens. an area of low pressure moves through. this is going to bring us some showers and a chance for some very low snow. we stopped the clock at friday, 7:00 p.m. showers starting to p

john boehner's house." republicanst two announcing they would not seek reelection. this is from nbc on capitol hill, 8 gop house lawmakers have announced they will retire. bachus, bauc -- bachmann, campbellcoble, onein, latham, and democrat, madison. madison -- matheson. matheson barely beat his opponent in 2012, the saratoga springs mayor. she is running again for that seat. that will turn out for republicans in the fourth district of utah. richard and texas, democratic caller. who is your representative, and do your senators represent your views? representative in the , farenthal. navy veteran. the only place they could find a cut was on the backs of veterans. we were promised that if we stayed and did our job, the cost of living increase. they are cutting our cost of living increase by 1%. take you want to see them care of the pension issues on the budget. going to hurt military retention and it is going to hurt recruiting. then all a promise and of the sudden, they stashed it away from us -- they snatch it away. there are other places they could cut besides on the back of veteran to have worked for this country. host: have you made this case to your senators? or two-year members of c