. >> from the 18th annual texas ts book festival in austin, texas, a discussion with john taliaferro author of "all the great prizes: the life of john hay, from lincoln to roosevelt," and h. w. brands, author of "the man who saved the union: ulysses s. grant in war and peace." this is about 45 minutes. >> thanks to all of you for coming out this afternoon. we have with us to historians who have written two new books about a couple major 19th century figures in american history and politics. to my immediate left, h. w. brands has written this book about ulysses s. grant called "the man who saved the union: ulysses s. grant in war and peace." and to my father left we have john taliaferro -- to my farther left we have john taliaferro and his book is called content about the statesman john hay. so