>> well, she was very impressed by lillian carter. i don't think we mentioned lillian carter yet. she was a major force through the whole town of plains because she was a nurse. where is the prevailing attitude was african-americans had to come through the back door and the schools were separate, as far as she was concerned everybody was equal and she had to carry out her nursing responsibilities that way. and everybody saw that and one of rosalynn's sisters was named after miss lillian so there was a respect for her. even at this time, although the prevailing culture was of segregated society, i think both of them grew up with a basic sense of fairness that said this isn't the way things ought to be and of course as they travelled around the world they broadened their perspectives. >> neither of them were amongst the white southerners that stood up against the kind of segregationist's way of life. they may have had their personal views but they were quiet about those views and i think that's what is interesting about his governship. that's when you see that kind of change. >> you

part of the time -- >> and amy was there and then the nation also got introduced to miss lillian and president carter'srother billy. >> miss lillian was the celebrity. when the democratic national convention was held in the summer 1976, most of the delegates already met the carter family because miss lillian because she stayed home to take care of amy. she was the carter family member people hadn't already met. the big thing at the convention was, can i meet lillian carter? >> it was exciting to be in elementary school at this time. i grew up in georgia. for amy to grow up in the white house it was exciting if you were a kid. she seemed right there in the center of all the events and i remember thinking about that a lot as something that was really about exciting. >> how did she protect young amy from the press and that sort of thing? we have a photo. you can see how young she is. how did they approach parenting? >> well, i think that felt that all their kids should be able to have a private life if they wanted to and amy certainly did. you know, if you're a kid in the first family you've got secret se