lincoln delegated a lot of day-to-day diplomacy. if you situate lincoln in the center of his own foreign policies end up with a biography because lincoln didn't do everything. part of my approach is how you slice it. the great lincoln biographer james randolph said if you compare lincoln to teddy roosevelt or a theodore roosevelt he didn't do that much in international affairs the things he did do were very important and so my approach was to be very selective and hone in on those things and look at five key episodes i feel reveal what ellingtonian foreign-policy is about. one of the reasons it is possible to do this is there has been a genuine and astonishing bloom in lincoln scholarship and i don't just mean quantity of stuff because there has been a lot of stuff but quality of lincoln books that coming out right now and i want to explain how they have done this because i think it is fascinating because there have been so many biographies of lincoln, the greatest historians that have written about him have become figures of importance so they leave their research materials, there note cards to university libraries, library of congres

support for the african-american former slaves, he is the last lincoln republican but, of course, lincoln himself had that other site. lincoln was a corporate lawyer. so lincoln was behind the pro-business legislation. if lincoln had lived, one hesitates to say this about a tragic death, but it was the best career move he could have made to be assassinated. because he exits the scene when things get messy. if lincoln had lived, lincoln's reputation would not be what it is today. he is generally considered to be the greatest of american presidents. but if it had to deal with reconstruction he would've come across exactly what grant had to deal with. he would have faced a revolt within the party and he would've faced a revolt by congress. one of the reasons we remember lincoln is that he could effectively by degree in slavery. those of you who've seen the movie and then realizes he understood that was a wasting power. it's one of the reasons you so concerned with getting the 13th a minute in the constitution. it's a huge problem, and john hay, there were a whole lot of people who were quite happy with grant while he was a gene

lincoln in the world" the making of a statesman and the dawn of american power. mr. peraino what is the tack you are taking with abraham lincoln? >> are 15,000 books about abraham lincoln but his foreign policy is almost never treated so my book is about lincoln and u.s. foreign policy. part of the reason that there hasn't been a book on his foreign policy in nearly 70 years kind of a holistic human narrative about it, that's before the lincoln papers were released in the library of congress in 1947. so there's a lot of water under the bridge since then but i think one of the reasons there hasn't been a book about lincoln lincoln's foreign policies he had a very strong incompetent secretary of state in william henry seward. he dedicated a lot to seward. he didn't do a lot in foreign affairs but the things he did do were really important. i sliced a little differently. i have taken a look at the things that lincoln do and foreign relations. without saying he did everything or without saying everything right, he made some mistakes too >> was his foreign policy all tied in to the civil war? >> we treat the civil war period in this book but i also have a chapter early on a

lincoln? >> well, i mean, there are 15,000 books about abraham lincoln, but his foreign policy is almost never treated. my book is about lincoln and u.s. foreign policy. part of the reason there hasn't been about lincoln's foreign policy in nearly 70 years. a human narrative about it. that's before the lincoln papers were released and library of congress in 1947. so there's a lot of water under the bridge since then. but i think one of the reasons there's no book about his foreign policy. he a strong and competent secretary of state. he didn't do everything in foreign affair. but the things he did do are really important. and so i've sliced it a little differently. i've taken look at the things that lincoln did do in foreign releases without saying he did everything or everything right, by the way. he made some mistakes too. >> was foreign policies all tied in to the civil war? >> well, we treat the civil war period in this. i have a chapter early on about the mexican war. lincoln was a freshman congressman in the house of representatives during the end of the mexican war in the 1840s. lincoln was opposed to the origin of the

lincoln in the world of the making of a statesman and the don of american power. mr. kevin peraino, what is the catch that you are taking with abraham lincoln? >> books about abraham lincoln but the policy is never treated as though my book is about lincoln and u.s. foreign policy. part of the reason is there hasn't been a policy in nearly 70 years, a kind of holistic human narrative about it and that is before the lincoln papers were released in congress in 1947, so there is a lot of water under the bridge, but i think that one of the reasons there hasn't been a book about the foreign policy is that there's a strong and competent secretary of state. he delegated a lot and so lincoln didn't do everything in foreign affairs. but the things he did do are really important, so i sliced it a little differently. i've taken a look at the things lincoln did do in the foreign relations but without saying he did everything right by the way. he made some mistakes, too. >> was the foreign policy all tied into the civil war? >> we treat the civil war appeared to in this book and i also have a chapter early on about the mexican war. lincoln was a freshman congressman in the house of re

lincoln through and this is a lashing out against the possibility of black civil rights. all of that's true, but americans at the time is they receive the news of lincoln's assassination didn't know about the details. so what they assumed was the assassination was a response to the surrender. who's had been infuriated by the south's defeat and he was lashing out against lincoln to rob lincoln of the fruits of his victory. what happened here at appomattox is the context for the assassination in the eyes of almost all northerners. if a site of that. the connection between the surrender of the assassination. they believe booth was trying to undo the union victory at that moment. any other questions? comments? >> knowing there's talented leaders in the room. would you want to revive that in some way? something that would fit on a billboard? >> i mean, i think again the myth that the gentleman's agreement between grant and lee is a compelling one and not one that doesn't have merit. it was a great achievement for these two men to end the war. i would like to say parent radically, sometimes people these days we'll talk about a long civil war and appomattox didn't win the war. effectively, appomattox ends the civil war. there are surrenders to come. yes armies in the field, but what happened after appomattox is not going to revive hopes were confederate independenc

lincoln or seward? it is a part of their game and lincoln actually seward shows he was advocating pretty hard and to release the men relatively yearly. but most of the evidence says lincoln made a show to keep the diplomats until the end when seward convinced him to release them. i think that version misses the point a little bit. there is some evidence that lincoln was talking tough but preparing the ground to release the diplomats there was a reminiscence at the time that remembers lincoln to start preparing the readers we have to release these guys to right some articles and he said it misses the point how presidential decision making is made. it is not static one person says don't release them the other one says to it. opinions change over eric over white cuban missile crisis in the early-- kennedy says cuba then later he says the blockade is better so it evolves here what is important he made the right decision and listen to the voice of reason in more war was avoided. >>. >> are you aware of any circumstances of naval technology had an impact on national diplomacy? >> i don't get into it. there is some great monographs but i don't get into it with great detail in t

lincoln. [applause] and i don't want to be partisan, but i do think it's very important to look in context. lincoln was all about the rule of law. lincoln understood as somebody who had grown up very poor, who had only had about a year and a half of schooling, who had literally learned how to read by the light of a fireplace because his family couldn't afford candles, and lincoln understood that it is the rule of law which protects the weak. it is the rule of law which recollects the average person -- protects the average person. that without the rule of law, it is the predators, the vicious and the powerful. and so he saw what we were fighting over as the very essence of freedom and whether or not freedom would survive. and he goes to gettysburg -- this war had gotten much longer, much bloodier, much more difficult than anybody expected. everybody thought it was a 30 to 90-day war. and lincoln is having to explain to the north why is it worth this level of pain? gettysburg was the bloodiest battle of the war, three days, an enormous number of casualties on both sides. and lincoln is having to talk to people, and in virtually every vill

i see it as more like abraham lincoln. lincoln prosecuted his war after the loss of his son. coolidge pursued his policy plans. he did things notwithstanding the loss of his presidency. more joyless, but still that perseverance. coolidge did not give up and grace did not give up. >> i think the difference between the two is interesting. when there were holidays, calvin would note who wasn't at the table. grace took joy with whoever was at the table. just very different in that way, the way they handled it. >> bill is watching from delaware. >> two quick questions. is it correct historically that the room we now know as the solarium was built by the coolidges because there was a roof leak? did that occur during his full term or prior to him being elected to a full term in 1924? since mrs. coolidge outlived president coolidge for so many years, did she develop a friendship with lou henry hoover, eleanor roosevelt, bess truman and mamie eisenhower, and did she ever go back to the white house? >> we know that there was a solarium built, and she retreated to it at the end of the f

lincoln ellis. lincoln we'll check bacc in with you in a few moments that the s&p futures close. david: you and, can are you kidding sandy and i are the best friends. we love each other. cheryl: google glass and self-driving cars, 2013 was a breakthrough year for technology. we'll break down the best high-tech gadgets and look which ones will dominate 2014. david: american auto companies are expected to end the year with the best sales in six years, just four years after the massive government bailout, but do those numbers tell the whole story? we're on the hook for $10 billion. we're going to debate that straight ahead. that bring us to the facebook question, what do you think about the bailout, was it success or a failure? remember detroit is in bankruptcy. facebook.com/afterthebell. your answers coming up later this hour and don't miss the debate. ♪ [ male announcer ] what if a small company became big biness overnight? ♪ like, really big..... then expanded? ♪ or their new product tanked? ♪ or not? what if they embrace new technology instead? ♪ imine a company's future with the future of trading. company profile. a research tool on thinkorswim. from td ameritrade. smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps preven the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. david: "the new york times" hitting a 52-week high on possible takeover talk. let's head back to lauren simonetti on floor of new york stock exchange. do tell, lauren. >> hey, david, absolutely not only hitting annual highs. look here, 16.09, essentially closing at the high of 16.10. the stock was up 4 1/2% today. this is the news this is being reported in the china times, that a chinese billionaire and philanthropist named bao. chairman of renewable resources company there. he has lots of money. once gave out 43 cars, behave out much of his fortune after the earthquake in 2008. he reportedly considering making a bid for "the new york times." david. david: wow, "the new york times" being owned by a chinese national. very interesting stuff. who knows. thank you. cheryl: s&p futures are closing. let's head back to lincolns in the pits of the cme. lincoln? >> cheryl, good to be with you. guys definitely square up against a slightly truncated session tomorrow and not really that much interest coming in here. people seem to be squaring up for around 1850 level in terms of puts and calls signaling a slightly higher start to the new year. we did a little bit after study last week to look how the first two days of trade go. they go up for the s&p, up 50 basis points but better for the emerging market economy, eem, the emerging market equity index, 2%. 10% annualized gains in the first two days of the year over course of last 10. cheryl: lincoln, one group of invest that is hasn't performed in 2013. sense that emerging markets will come back next year? >> they could come back if we get a turn in gdp growth and get growth in wages in developed economies, and export driven economies definitely benefit from that. cheryl: lincoln ellis in the spits of pits of cme. >> thank you, cheryl. david: david: 2013 was a pa

lincoln assassination, and the transition at that particular time to another johnson, andrew johnson, from tennessee, who was put on lincoln's ticket in 1864 election. i don't think anyone would have thought -- maybe they did -- lincoln was always thinking more of the thought, understandably but that andrew johnson would be president, there was a great deal of talk he was drunk at the inauguration, so, there was a transition which was right after -- days after -- it's hard to imagine -- days after appomattox. days after the war, and some in the south were actually still fighting. they didn't want to stop fight, and andrew johnson is the next president, and a lot of knee. congress, called the radical republicans, they looked to johnson and thought johnson would be a good guy and one of them, would actually implement the social policies that so many people had fought for, and they were sadly mistaken in him as it turned out, and in fact johnson was almost impeached, just about a couple years later. so, it was a very rocky transition in this particular case, not because the government didn't work, but because you're just coming out of a dreadful, horrific war. >> that's the theme that i came to recognize in my book as w

government stroke, it took away the president's ability to get in there and if you saw the movie "lincoln," lincoln rid of slavery. the president doesn't have the earmarks so he can't punish and he can't reward which makes the system work a little less well. i can always say to a representative i need your vote and by the way that bridge project you care about is a good project maybe we can move it up. i didn't have to say any more to that. >> access to the president has been a recurring issue for the press corps during the obama presidency. it became a major point of discussion yesterday as jay carney defended the administration's relationship with the media. carney addressed the access white house access pete souza has. >> what exists now on the internet is for everyone, everyone of you, everyone on the street to take a picture and put it on the internet. some of it has to do with fundamental transformations of the media which he and others are participants but we did not create the internet, this administration -- guys [ talking all at once ] >> our problem is access. you can put out a million p

lincoln in the a making of the statesman and dawn of american power. what is the tact you're taking with lincoln? >> well, i mean, there are 15,000 books about abraham lincoln, but his foreign policy is almost never treated. my book is about lincoln and u.s. foreign policy. part of the reason there hasn't been about lincoln's foreign policy in nearly 70 years. a human narrative about it. that's before the lincoln papers were released and library of congress in 1947. so there's a lot of water under the bridge since then. but i think one of the reasons there's no book about his foreign policy. he a strong and competent secretary of state. he didn't do everything in foreign affair. but the things he did do are really important. and s

lincoln is having to explain to the north, why is it worth the struggle and pain? gettysburg was the bloodiest battle of the war, three days, enormous number of casualties on both sides and lincoln is having to talk to be bland in virtually every village in america a family lost somebody. he is going to run for reelection. nobody had been reelected since andrew jackson. lincoln is going to run for reelection having failed to win the war. go back and read the gettysburg address as a campaign document because he is having to reach out to people and say to them do not let your son or your cousin or your nephew have died in vain. don't flinch, don't back off because this is central to the future of the human race. it is an important thing. this is what candidly made the stunning -- dishonesty of president obama about yes, you can keep your policy with which we now know he said at least 39 times on video tape commack least 39 times. you can't have a government of the people, lincoln is clever with this. supposedly talking with great lincoln experts and i have written a novel on gettysburg, jackson got dressed up in an 1860s outfit, i was a congressman, the congressman's wife, appeared at one of the others as a housewife whose house has become a hospital, she says some hostile things to the soldiers about having brought these 4 dying guys into her home but spent a

illinois, known as the land of lincoln but few know the story of william -- billy the barber, lincoln's black barber, had some amount of influence on lincolnticularly in his views on race. here again in the chapter lincoln and the negro, this one written by robert lucas, on the screen here. late one evening in the fall of 1831 outside the evening of new salem, carrying an ax on his shoulder. stories here just not telling straight history. the tall man learned he was a barber, nearly out of money and heading for springfield introduced the young negro to his boardinghouse, the rutledge tavern and obtained him for anything's work. in this way a close friendship was born between the two, but although he resumed his journey to springfield, the french were later reunited. and continue, lincoln spent much of his spare time at the barbershop where there was always a crowd. he picked up a client, lincoln's actions as president recognizing the independence of haiti and offer of free passage for any negro who wished to go and live there. keep in mind lincoln actually supported pollinization. something that they covered in the chapter. and indeed ther

lincoln, good to see you. lincoln ellis. >> thank you, liz.e national retail federation says there were more people out shopping holiday week owned but less spent leading overall cash drop in cash spent. what does that mean for retailers and coming earnings? we have fox business exclusive, founder of the retail giant, staples, how many times have you ordered from them, tom stemberg, who served as chairman and ceo. tom, thanks for coming here. >> good to be here. david: start with the holiday sales figures we got. more folks are spending but they're spending less. do you think that trend is going to continue throughout this season? >> no i think we'll be up a little bit. if i had to pick a number, i would say somewhere between two and 3%. i want tome emphasize there is tremendous variance between firms. could you see some firms, particularly those selling commodities, affected by amazon being negative. we've got companies, high land consumer fund in our portfolio like david's tea and jim mcglothlin, affordable luxury items up meaningful double

in the 19th century, we are a country that needs a lincoln, and a lincoln arises. in the '20s during the depression and to lead us in the second world war, we find be our fdr. and in the second half, we find our reagan. this is not to say that we will always be able to find our way. but there is something about the american spirit, about the bedrock decency and common sense of the american that seems to help us find our way, and we do. and if that isn't enough to cheer you up, i will leave you with a remark, a comment of my favorite pundit, ott to von -- otto von business mark, not generally known for punditry. [laughter] generally known for invading other countries. [laughter] successfully. [laughter] who once actually said god looks after children, fools, drunkards and the united states of america. [laughter] he said that in 1890, and i hope to god he still does. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> so are there any questions? i think -- do we have microphones? i'm told. microphones? all around. okay. just raise your hand. yes, sir. >> dr. krauthammer, w

lincoln ellis of green square capital. lincoln... what do you anticipate for the remainder of this holiday trading week? > >well the worst of this week is going to be relatively quiet and that means probably positive news for equities. if you don't really have sellers out there the trend is up and it's very much in tact. > >was gdp really as good as it looked? > >that friday number was a surprise significantly to the upside from 36 to 41. unfortunately most of that uspide was built on inventory buildings and we'll have to wait and whether or not the demand side of that number actually pulls through in terms of the holiday spending. > >let's talk about incomes. are they enough to keep up with consumption levels that we saw this week? > >the consumption levels continue to climb, unfortunately they're climbing faster than incomes are growing and that leaves us a little bit concerned particularly when we see credit expansion happening at the same time. keep your eyes out on all three of those pieces. they make significant headwinds or tailwinds for equities in 2014. > >i have to ask, what do you think about what facebook has been doing? > > they have been executing on the plan that mark has put together along with sheryl all along and it's just been a bumpy ride here and there but they're really starting to monetize that business and monetize it nicely. > >this was quite a santa rally we just enjoyed. we get one usually this time of year but is there any reason why this just wouldn't continue into the new year? > >the santa claus rally although it tends to be a bit lower when we come in off of these high numbers is very much in tact and there is no reason to think that equities don't still have a little room to grow in the first quarter. although we expect the final three quarters of 2014 to be much higher in terms of volatility and much more difficult for investors to navigate. > >lastly, what should we keep our eye on as we start the new year? > >you really want to keep an eye on the fed and all the central banks around the world. they have been the tailwinds of this extraordinary 5 year run and that is what people should be focused on. > >good advice. lincoln ellis, thanks very much. > >you bet. now that christmas is over... gift giving is turning into gift returning... as diane moca explains. chuck ... in today's cover story...retailers are looking forward to the seventh busiest shopping day of the year today... but some popular stores could end up confusing shoppers... or even alienating loyal customers... in an effort to fight fraud with new return policies. "i don't think it's quite fair. you should be given the amount of time you need to return things." shoppers aren't welcoming what retailers have in store for them as they brave crowds to take back presents they don't want. many don't like being denied a refund or an exchange without a receipt... though they may not be as surprised as others who will be turned away even with a receipt -- if they wait too long. consumer-world-dot-org's annual survey found shortened return periods for: best buy... which will only give you until january 15th...toys 'r us... which cuts off electronics re

lincoln memorial. we went there and saw president lincoln there.hen we looked across the mall to the far end, i saw it has the national nut house, just the day opened. >> the national nut house would be the capital, the house of representatives and the senate. >> yes. >> tell me about that. >> you use the word whacko. word. >> i used that word in the speech. the tea party people are crazy. i mean, they are luna ticks. they closed down the government, throw people out of their jobs, hundreds of thousands of people and say that they are doing to ultimately in the interests of creating jobs. madness. and, you know, my life has been shaped by that kind of situation - madness, craziness by our democracy and shining ideals of our dem okay wassy mem wrorial esed by the -- memorialized by the monuments at the other end of the mall. incarcerations of japanese-americans was crazy. they didn't incars rate the japanese-americans in hawaii. that's the place that was bombed. the japanese population was 45% of the island of hawaii. if they extracted those japanes

lincoln, maine. state trooper lincoln murray is patrolling a busy expressway when a red suv zips by. >> checked his speed saw he was going 30 miles over the posted speed limit. the vehicle was coming at me at 75 miles per hour. >> murray stops the speeding vehicle. the police dashcam shows the officer walking toward the suv when the driver erupts into a shrieking fit of rage. >> i'll have to plead guilty. i have to work. i can't afford to take the day off. you damn, [ bleep ]. >> i knew almost immediately this wasn't going to be your typical traffic stop. when i approached the vehicle, he was upset. you can hear him say that. just give me this thing and let me get the bleep out of here. >> i know what i do. you're ripping me off. >> murray stands a couple of feet from the driver's window and attempts to explain the ticket. >> can i explain to you, sir, so you'll know what you need to do? >> but the driver doesn't want to hear it. >> i don't deserve it because i didn't do nothing wrong. just give me the [ bleep ] ticket, and i'll look at the date. if i'm working, i'll pay the [ bleep ] fine because i can'

lincoln ellis at cme. lincoln? >> liz, good to be back with you. not much going on. truncated session tomorrow. fed meeting in january. and people squaring up ahead of the holiday. very, very light day here. not much more to report, i'm sad to say. david: all right. lincolnthank you very much. >> thanks, david. david: one. biggest knocks against federal reserve chairman ben bernanke and most of the members of the federal reserve that they are economic they're tish shuns but dallas fed president richard fisher says he is more business economist than academic. he will be part of the fed policy setting committee starting next year. joining us for exclusive interview since the fed's decision last week, richard fisher, federal reserve bank of dallas president. you've been to australia. you look great, richard. thanks for coming in. >> david, i'm dressed like an academic this afternoon, my tweed coat. david: start with last week's decision. if you had been a voting member last week would you have voted with the majority or been a dissenter? >> no. i would have voted with the majority. i wanted to see the beginning of this tapering. i said so at the meeting. i felt like from my perspective the best thing is to get started. as you remember, david, i said, even t

lincoln gave that address and blacks mingled with the inaugural congratulated. it was a craney, overcast day when lincoln gave his second inaugural address. a friend of his noted, "just as president lincoln stepped afford to take the oath of office or, the son which had been obscured by rain clouds burst forth in splendor president lincoln saw it. the next day the president asked a friend did you notice that sunburst? jump. the skies were also overcast the the congressional gold medal here in washington. on that day, the dark bronze bust of martin luther king jr. had been moved from one side of the row tun did did a so -- rotunda so that lincoln and dr. martin luther king appeared to preside together over the ceremony awarding the congressional gold medal to nelson mandela. as president mandela started to speak, rays of sunlight began to pour into the rotunda. they illuminated the base of the statues first and then rose gradually until by the time president mandela finished speaking, both lincoln and king were bathed in bright sunlight. with a little imagination, you could almost hear lincoln say did you notice that sunburst? it made my heart jump. like lincoln, president mandela now bel

certainly since the days of adam's but with lincoln they were brought back and in fact wilson used to cite lincoln all the time. that's a good cover, lincoln. >> it's interesting people asked me what would teddy roosevelt done in today's world of twitter and i think he would have loved it. his great strength was to reduce complex problems into shorthand language so the square deal. everything that scott said the wilson believed in, that their nests, not going after the rich unless they have accumulated their wealth in an unfair means, i'm not going after the poor unless they haven't have been taking care of their opportunities. the rock on which the country will flounder not only the square deal but speak softly and carry a big stick. heaving gave maxwell house slogan, good to the last drop. studies drank 40 cups of coffee a day. something has to explain the incredible energy. >> he t.r. would have loved twitter because you couldn't shut them up. >> he he loved being in the center of things. this is to strengthen his weakness. his daughter alice said he wanted to be the bride at the wedding and the corpse at the funeral and the baby at the

mean, no president's ever been loathed the way nixon was loathed except for lincoln by the southerners. they loathed lincolnay the media loathed nixon. so, nixon's a very special case. the media was after him because of his communist activities and made mistakes they went crazy going after him and a way that's not imagined now. i mean, it would be -- it can't even -- the hostility was unimaginable. >> but let's talk about the fact that, you know, now that you have got obama who's doing these drone strikes and, you know, killing american citizens without due process and all of the thing that is he's done, contrary, hypocrisy, 7 million people lost their insurance or bumped from their plans. it's estimated 75 million will lose their, you know, employer insurance. i mean, will this change, ben? does he have such a halo over his head that he's safe from everything? >> he has a halo over his head from the people who count. he has a halo over his head from the mainstream powers in the media, mainstream powers in hollywood, mainstream powers on wall street. he has a halo over his head from the shining thought poli

lincoln carson is here with us. lincoln, you talk. how sweet it is. >> thanks, vicki.everything that we do here isn't just about the literal -- it's about the entire experience. we have squash with chocolate and ginger. pumpkin seeds. >> beautiful. >> we've got our cake with maple ice cream. >> some of these flavors and spices are just like thanksgiving and christmas and everything good rolled into one. >> yeah. i think it's that time of season, that time of year. we're all about using seasonal products. >> what are sweets without sips. what did you just pour. >> a pear sider. i think sider is something that a lot of people overlook. it is so, so good. it is good for you because it is just sparkling pear juice. so this one also has a slight little fizz to it. it's refreshing. it's like adult sprite. >> they make a wicked version of the grass hopper. tyler is the master. what makes it holiday. >> we're doing a brandy-based grass hopper. we're placing aged -- that will give you more of a holiday feel. >> just go to our website for more information and click on dine and d

in the 19th century, we are a country that needs a lincoln, and a lincoln arises.in the '20s during the depression and to lead us in the second world war, we find be our fdr. and in the second half, we find our reagan. this is not to say that we will always be able to find our way. but there is something about the american spirit, about the bedrock decency and common sense of the american that seems to help us find our way, and we do. and if that isn't enough to cheer you up, i will leave you with a remark, a comment of my favorite pundit, ott to von -- otto von business mark, not generally known for punditry. [laughter] generally known for invading other countries. [laughter] successfully. [laughter] who once actually said god looks after children, fools, drunkards and the united states of america. [laughter] he said that in 1890, and i hope to god he still does. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> so are there any questions? i think -- do we have microphones? i'm told. microphones? all around. okay. just raise your hand. yes, sir. >> dr. krauthammer, wh

lincoln high school. he says he's going donate his paycheck $53,000, to lincoln high, where he serves as a football coach. >> the 41-year-old kiddner was brought in as a back up after tony roma suffered a herniated disc. the winner against the eagles moves on to the play-offs. he's never won a medal and probably never will. but peruvian skier is set to make olympic history. he was one of the first athletes to represent peru at the winter games. in a shaw weeks he will head to socchi. >> on perfect snow be neath the skies on british columbia, a solo skier trains. >> skiing and being in contact with nature, you are at your own pace and think about a million things. >> among the many things in his head, memories of a night four years ago, the opening ceremonies of the vancouver games, when he had a flag in his hand and a country on his shoulder. >> you open up and walk up and, "oh my god", and you feel the roar of people and you can't put it in words. i was absolutely happy just to be there and carry the flag. >> he lives in seattle with his wife kate and daughter frankie. he gets support from the peruvian o

lincoln ellis with green square capital. so lincoln, do you buy at these levels now that we've cracked the 1200 mark, or do you think there's considerable down side from here? >> yeah, there really could be considerable down side from here. from the august highs really around the 1400 level right through here where we pierced the 1200 level, your support is around 1180 from a technical base. we've been neutral on gold for some time, and we think with real interest rates beginning to creep up, at least real interest rate expectations, that we would be avoiding this space right now. certainly a much higher level of volatility for investors in the gold market. >> all right. lincoln ellis, thank you so much. appreciate it. ty, up to you. >> all right, folks. >>> we are just getting started on this edition of "tyler's angels." we'll solve more crimes here this hour. take a look at this "power lunch" lineup, wells, thompson and morgan brennan. morgan, you get to go first. >> tyler, right after the break, a new and heavy weapon in the war on cancer. >> and from the battle against cancer to target battling a huge credit card breach, information from 40 million credit and ebb didity cards possibly compromised. what happened? how they are reacting. that's next. >>> not feeling well, guys? maybe it's something you ate? get used to it. a very serious warning about the most popular meat in america, ty. >> meat, it's what's for dinner. all right. i tell you, we're just getting started. we'll be right back. a lot can happen in a second. with fidelity's guaranteed one-second trade execution, we route your order to up to 75 market centers to look for the best possible price -

lincoln. [applause] i don't want to be partisan, but i do think it is very important to look in the context. lincoln was all about the rule of law and someone that had grown up very poor who only had about a year and a half of schooling who only learned how to read by the light of a five-year place because his family couldn't afford candles and lincoln understood that it is the rule of law that protects the weak and protect the rule of law but without the law it is some powerful and the vicious. and so he saw what we were fighting over as the very essence of freedom and whether or not freedom would survive. and he goes to gettysburg and this is where it got much longer and much more difficult than anybody expected. they thought that was a 30 to 90 day war and leaned and is having to explain why is it worth this level of came. gettysburg was the bloodiest war in three days a number of casualties on both sides. and lincoln is having to talk to people and in virtually every village in america there is a family that has lost somebody. and he's going to run for reelection. nobody had been elected since andrew jackson. lincoln is going to run for their reelection having failed to win the war. go back and read did the defeat could lead to the gettysburg address as a campaign document because he is having to reach out an appeal to people an

lincoln. how many years ago? i did not interview abraham lincoln. >> you did not. >> it's a myth. there anyone left? are there people that you would be interested in talking to. >> there are a couple of people who i have never done interviewed. a pope has never done an interview. this pope may be more amenable. no pope has done a television interview. queen elizabeth has never done a television interview. >> i didn't realize that. wow. >> another interview i would like to do because it was the highest rating interview of all time was the interview we did with monica lewinski. everybody else from that period has been able to move on. monica has not. she happens to be a very nice woman. >> she works at the yogurt shop down the block. i think you could get her. >> it's very hard for her to get a job. >> have you spoken to her recently? >> yes, i have. i would love to interview, but i don't know if she would want to. >> i have met her. she was my co-host here at the show for a week in the early days of the show. >> are you kidding me? monica was your co-host? >> that's right. she was.

lincoln they were brought back. in fact wilson used to cite lincoln all the time. that's a good cover a thing. >> 's interesting people have asked me what would teddy roosevelt have done in today's world with twitter and i think he would have loved it. his great strength was to reduce complex problems into shorthand language. a square deal. anything that scott said the wilson believed in about fairness, i'm not going after the rich must they have accumulated their wealth with unfair means and i'm not going after the poor as long as they are taking care of their opportunities. he would say it's the rock on which the country will flounder. he gave maxwell house the slogan, good to the very last drop. it is said that he drank 40 cups of coffee a day. that explains the incredible energy of this character. >> i think t.r. would have loved twitter because you couldn't shut them up. >> you loved being in the center this was his strength and his weakness. his daughter alice said he wanted to be the bride of the wedding and the corpses the funeral. [laughter] >> all of this of course made wilson cringe. he thought t.r. was just at duke caricature of a man. in fact somebody once pointed out to t.r. that colonel roosevelt you have the same objectives here. you have some of the same principles and plans that you believe in. you are really so much alike. why do you attack him every day? roosevelt thought and he said i guess wilson is just the weaker version of me. [laughter] >> wilson was the president of rensin university before he was president. environments affect did him in a positive for a negative way. >> ivory tower helped him very much. he was trying to tear down the ivory tower. woodrow wilson was the son of a presbyterian minister who had the good fortune to go north to college from georgia and the carolinas where he grew up in virginia where he was born. he went to princeton in new jersey and there he found a very exclusive campus. he resented it as a graduate and he came to resented as a professor there. he then became president of the college and it was at this time he decided, now i have the ability to change with this college is. wilson's predecessor in the presidency of rensin was a man who used to brag that he ran the finest country club in america. and he did. there was no question about it. this was an enclave for the sons of the very rich. wilson tried to tear that down and it was in doing that but he began writing about what he was doing and speaking about what it was doing. this is how the most meteoric rise in american history occurred because people began to look at wilson who use the princeton campus is a great metaphor for america. he believes higher education should read the great catapult for people, that anybody from any class in the country that has not classes, but in such a country anybody who is educated and works hard should we able to leapfrog, should be able to go was to or a rung or two above the latter. wilson became famous for this so much so that some of the bosses in the demo that it party were attracted to him thinking you is a perfect combination to be their puppet. namely he sounded very progressive and reformist but also he was perfect or so he would be very weak. little did they know when he got elected governor of new jersey, which he served for about 18 months, the first thing he did as governor was kicked out -- and put them in office so everybody saw this was no weak college professor. >> let's turn to the women in these president slides. i'm always interested in the women behind the man. i am interested in how these women help these presidents. >> what is so interested me is that there are three women that i'm writing about, edith roosevelt nellie taft andite tarbell. they each made choices that they had to make. there were narrower choices for women at that time that we have today. edith roosevelt came from a family where her father had been wealthy and he had lost a shipping business and became an ogg-aholic. she had lived near teddy when she was the young girl in a wealthy area and they had to move to more modest homes. she drew a protective curtain around herself. she loved teddy from the time she was young. they were boyfriend and girlfriend through college. they had a fight in his soft warrior of college. they have broken up and he felt madly in love with this beautiful girl from us -- boston. he married alice and alice died a few years later. he went to the badlands depressed and thought he would never love again. the light had gone out of his life but he went back and married edith and it was an extraordinary strong and joyous marriage. all she wanted from the marriage and her first leadership was to give companionship and strength and a sanctuary tour ever restless husband. she said when she became first later she had no intention of ing of public parsonage. what mattered for a woman was only to be in the newspaper twice when you are married and when you are very. she left the first ladyship little known by the public at large but very much known by her family. nellie taft growing up in cincinnati had ambitions from the time she was an adolescent to do some bring. her father center brothers to harvard and yale and not she. she just started to start teaching to her mother's dismay. she decided she might not marry as a result she meets young will taft. he adored her and respected her independence. he made her his partner in his whole career. she is really partly responsible for him choosing politics eventually instead of the judicial route he was on. she wanted that more expensive life. she helped with the speeches and help with the strategy and became an extraordinary first lady. very activist concerned with working women. she brought the cherry trees to washington. she opened her guest list to more people than it in their before. created a public park with free concerts. two months after he was inaugurated when she just had an article in "the new york times" about how extraordinary she was she fell on a presidential yacht and had a devastating stroke. she recovered her power of walking but never to speak connected sentences again. he spent days and days trying to teach her how to say short phrases, glad to see you and happy to be here so she could participate. you never know how things alter but this contributed to his troubles this presidency. lastly ida tarbell growing up in northwestern pennsylvania watches the frustrations of her own mother. her father's and it ended and oil reducer. j.d. rockefeller comes from the standard oil and the octopus and this is business. the mother but declined to higher education. ida praise from the time she's 14 issue will never take a husband and she does not ever get married and becomes the most famous journalist. indeed when she writes her standard oil exposÉ the newspapers kept recording the john d. rockefeller was willing to pay anyone who would become her as an intake or a church around the world and never let her go. it's so interesting to think today however much trouble we have this women balancing home and family and work, those choices are so much broader than they were. it's interesting for me to see they each made a choice that fit their own needs and their own desires and it's that's the way women were. they were indispensable to their husbands. those 21st ladies in very different ways. >> scott? >> he has a bunch of women. >> i didn't mean it that way. >> no, no you certainly did not. [laughter] i feel a little as though we are on queen for a day. you have to come up with the most pathetic and most romantic story that you can. woodrow wilson had to wives, not at the same time. but the first was a young woman he had met in georgia when he was a struggling lawyer in atlanta. he was a presbyterian minister son. he met a presbyterian minister's daughter and the a little town called rome, georgia and fell instantly in love. he was realizing he didn't really have a career as a lawyer so he took up academia at that point. the good news for me the biographer is she and he woodrow wilson began exchanging 3000 of the most passionate love letters i have ever read. yes i'm talking woodrow wilson. [laughter] they are almost hard to believe. they are emotional. they are sexual. they are revealing. yes, woodrow wilson. it's true, it's true and she gave as good as she got. >> what the's that mean? [laughter] just let your conscience be your guide. they married. she became a professor's wife and a college presidents wife. she poured a lot of tea and the interesting thing is she was a very good artist. she painted extremely well. she could have had a career as an artist. gave it all up to be a proper wife is indeed the world of women was dictated back then and she was the most supportive wife all the way to the white house and one year into their living in the white house, ellen wilson died. the president was crushed. he could barely get out of bed. he being so religious did not talk about suicide but he did say more than once he wished somebody would just shoot him. he couldn't deal with it. two things got them out of bed. the first was the very weak she died a war broke out in europe and they are now wrapping rapping on the door saying mr. president something is happening we need you here. the second thing that happened over the course of the next few months is, woodrow wilson had -- and he was introduced to a very attractive young widow who lived in washington d.c. and over the course of the next year, the president went courting. he is having private dinners in the white house, always chaperoned and he is writing hundreds of the most passionate love letters you have ever read to this one. the other letters to ellen, that was puppy love. i mean this is now a man in his late 50's having his last stab at romance. he woos her and he wins her, and marries her within a year and now she became the most supportive presidential wife one can imagine. they never left each other side. it reached a point where wilson who often used to walk to other departments just to stop in and have meetings, mrs. wilson would invariably go with him. she was trained in all the memoranda he was writing. it was almost as though fatalistic hate it because what happened was after the war, after wilson came back with his league of nations he went around the country to try to convince the american people that they should condense the republican senate to ratify his treaty which the republicans did not want to do. in the middle of this tour woodrow wilson collapsed. and he was rushed home to washington from the middle of the country and there a few days later woodrow wilson suffered a stroke. here is where mrs. wilson comes in. she and a handful of doctors engaged in what i consider the greatest white house conspiracy in history. three or four people decided they would never tell anybody the president had suffered a stroke. and so for the last year and a half of the wilson administration, for all intensive purposes, edith bolan wilson became the first female president of the united states. [applause] bring it on. she was making no decisions on her own she insisted. she said she was merely a steward but nobody saw the president. of the thousands of people who wanted to see him nobody saw him a handful if that, without passing through mrs. wilson. all the documents the things that require signatures, memorandums, nothing appeared before the president of the united states ice until mrs. wilson decided what and when the president would act upon. so she became a pretty supportive wife. >> i guess so. if i could underscore something that scott said which i said earlier buts of barely talk about letters. i don't know what's going to happen 200 years from now on we don't have handwritten letters as historians to look back on. people had the only means of communicating through letters and when you find the letters it's a treasure. there was a military aide to both teddy and taft and in those days the military aide was with the president all the time. teddy loved him like another son. taft adored him. when the break occurred he wrote letters every single day to his family which are absolute gold. he talks ,-com,-com ma it's the way we know how deep that rupture was especially for taft. he called them a puzzle with and a fat head. this relationship had been so strong. finally he was supposed to take a trip in the spring of 1912 before the nomination began to heat up. at the last minute when teddy threw his hat in the ring he said i can't go. i have to stay with taft. he needs me. he tells thaddeus canceled the shipping orders and taft says you have to go. now is your time to go. will be back when i really need you. he goes to europe and goes for four weeks and he comes back on the titanic. taft was stricken yet again. he felt like he was missing this man. this man as the ship titanic was going down was telling somebody who wrote a letter to taft said he had these letters that were in storage and he hoped maybe they would he remembered some day. they have been gold to biographers. >> all i can say to young people is keep track of what you're writing to people so the biographer who comes along you will have stuff for us. >> and take a pen out every now and then. it's different and we have shared in this. the man we have written about and the women too for that matter road so beautifully. when you take the time to write you compose a thought. this is a nice thing. you put it in lovely language. >> i'm going to ask you both one more question then i'm going to open it up to the audience so if you'd like to start coming up to the microphone we will hear from you as well. my final question is this. president obama's having such a difficult time right now. what advice would your presidents give him? [laughter] >> you can go first. >> president wilson would say, get to the presidents room. go there, start a dialogue. woodrow wilson had a very contentious senate in the end, very contentious house of representatives as well. he did not give it everything you wanted but here's what woodrow wilson engaged in. it was a sustained dialogue for eight years. there was a lot of consternation. there was a lot of argument and a lot of disagreement but there was an ongoing chat between these two houses, these two branches of the american government. i think that is something wilson believed in so strongly. the second thing and it's related to it, and it's especially ironic because we do have such a stiff figure. the fact is wilson personalize the presidency. he was not afraid to go down to the congress. he did not just sit in the imperial white house. again very anti-ivory tower. he was willing to go there and he was willing to do anything to open the conversation. at one point he even had the foreign relations committee of the united states senate come to meet in the white house. he said let me open the house to you if that's what it takes to get something passed. he was always keeping the dialogue going. >> i agree with scott. in addition to going to the congress more it is using the tool of the white house. those congressman wanted to come there. i know there've been difficulties because i know the president has invited various republican members who have not been willing to come not wanting to be seen because of the terrible wrath that has occurred between republicans and democrats. it looks like they are disloyal to the base of their same with the president but there there's still something special about coming to the white house. he would call them up in the middle of the night. there was one senator he called at 2:00 a.m. and said i hope i didn't wake you up. he said no i'm just lying there looking at the ceiling hoping my present would call. the big difference it makes it so much harder today is the whole political culture in washington is has changed. they used to stay around on weekends before they raced home to raise these funds to make their stupid ads on television. campaign finance is the answer actually. [applause] it's absolutely the poison in the system. they would play poker and drink together and they formed friendships across party lines. when johnson needed to get to do dirksen to break the filibuster on the great civil rights act they were friends. there are so few friendships now between these people. none of them have served or a few of them served in the war together and many of them have been a world war ii together. it doesn't matter where you are coming from, you have a common mission. something has to bring that back in if we can bring teddy and wilson lbj and our presence in their to dig out those sites of the aisle congress and the presidency it's time that we are able to start dealing with their problems. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much. alex, please introduce yourself. >> i live in washington d.c. and i have the privilege of being a founding member of the national museum of women in new york. my question to mr. berg is given the education we had in our training we were asked to read a book called jail for freedom which was a series of essays written by the suffragettes who were lawyers, physicians, judgee fighting for the right to vote and president wilson totally ignore them. i wondered if you encountered this in your research? >> i don't think that's exact he write that he totally ignore them. he was quite aware of what was going on. wilson believed that women should have a vote. he believed there should not in 19th amendment for many years and he came around on that. he famously in 1915 got on the train and went to new jersey because he thought it was a states rights thing it should happen state-by-state. by 19 -- 1915 and 16 there were protests outside the white house. suffragettes were being arrested and taken to jail and wilson said let them go. don't put them in jail, just let them go. i know what the issue is and i'm not prepared to fight for the 15th amendment. she could've walked out anytime. she clearly wanted to stay and she was fighting for attention and maybe her point. by 1917 wilson was bringing the country to war and it was at this time he had a major shift. he had been playing to the more conservative wing of the suffragist for years who believed in state-by-state adoption but getting in 1917 he was coming around for two big reasons. first of all we were fighting in europe for peace and freedom over there and he said how can we not have half the women in this country voting? that seem to be a huge thing to him. the second thing he saw during the war once we were and that was the role women were playing. they were leaving the house for work. they were actually doing a lot of good works were the war movement. wilson had an overnight change of heart and actually began actively campaigning for the 19th amendment such that by the time he came out he got called into another session of congress and told him that this was a war measure and that is how important it was. we had to have nationals universal suffrage in the united states. he thought that would get good way to get everybody to rally behind it. within a year it was a done deal even alice paul came around to thank woodrow wilson for it. i would say he was late to the party but once he got there he had the lights on. >> one last question and we are going to move on now. we are going to go to the next question. thank you. >> good afternoon. what an honor to hear you and i want to ask a question. mr. berg you alluded to briefly the answer regarding present was at princeton. what was their relationship perhaps complicated relationship to status class? we get a sense that t.r. was with the common man but not of the common man. taft was a yale man. we also knew that t.r. was a princeton man. we know that t.r. was friends with jake reese who brought them down to the lower east side where my great grandparents set up shop. i am wondering on a specific note that the immigrant lower class and these three presence of the great immigration, were they part of the america of these three presidents? >> it's a great question. i think what happened for theodore roosevelt was that when he first went to harvard he kind of was dealing with the people of his class. underlying that kind of attitude that he came from a wealthy family obviously new york at his father had always been interested in social justice and not joined the real estate business that made them wealthy, have become a philanthropist and worked with young newsboys. that instinct was somewhat in teddy. but then the real place began to shift away from the harvard class mentality was that he became a state legislator right after congress. at first he went in with the tobacco and cigars were in a different class than when he wanted to. he became the histrionic rhetoric guide yelling and screaming about. political bosses he was ice he was isaac and sat in a certain point he realized he wasn't getting anything done because he wasn't reaching across to these other people. he realized he became a cropper and get to learn how to deal with people of dull all different classes. jacob reese became his great friend. originally he was against regulation of the tenements making cigars because he was from outlaws a fair tradition. he changed his mind and early on was for regulation. these reporters when he became police commissioner took him to where people were living in the middle of the night. what helped him was he had so many different jobs than when he was with the roughriders he had a whole group of people with him he kept his relationship with these reporters who were much more involved in the nitty-gritty than he was. they were able to criticize him which was the key rather than just becoming -- toward him. there was this guy mr. dooley who is the famous chicago bartender in and a humorous column written by peter dunn. he wrote a review of teddy's rough rider book. he put himself so much at the center of the action that it was as if he were the only person, he should've called it alone in cuba. teddy writes him and he says i regret to tell you that my wife and entire family loved your book. now you owe me one. i want to meet you. come here and meet me. through the reporters and people like jacob reese and involved in the settlement houses he began to see the conditions of life regulator said when he gave his talks, my harvard buddies think my talks are too folksy that they are kind of homely but i know i'm reaching people because i now know those people. he took train trips months at a time going around the country talking to people in village stations, waiving to people on the trains. he would stand out at the middle of lunch. at one point he was waiving so much and it turned out it was a herd of cows that people were waiving at. [laughter] something had to jar him away. he suddenly was aware that fate had dealt him an unkind hand reached out to other people who them the same thing it happened. >> wilson did not believe in a great class structure in this country. he was from a lower middle class being a presbyterian minister son. but he did believe in was the educated class and that was a class a matter for him. as i said before this was a man who spent most of his life and career on a college campus either as a student a professor or a president. this was a man who believed that was the great leveler of all playing fields in this country. and so the interesting thing when wilson became a politician and it was really a fascinating tool he used. as a politician he never spoke down to the audience. he never got folksy. he always used rather elevated language. he spoke invariably without any notes. he would just get out there and he could deliver an hour, arun have speech with a card with five bullets on it and speak in perfect sentences heightened vocabulary metaphors left and right. he could just do it. the fans loved it. they understood it and they felt elevated by it and woodrow wilson never look down on it. that was a wonderful thing for them. it was a great tool he used. as such he was pretty effective in that regard. >> lucky for roosevelt he did speak with notes. in fact in 1912 when he was campaigning he had his 50 page speech in his pocket when an assassin shot him in the chest. the bullet, yet go to the hospital and the bullet remained within him and he still delivered this speech despite bleeding inside. because he had the 50 pages at this speech in his pocket and a spectacle glass that went upward or it would have killed them on the spot. they each have their own way of talking and living. >> i'm afraid we only have time for one more question. >> for mr. berg. about wilson and the league of nations, the thought is i have heard he was so intransigent not going to accept some of the reservations of some of the senators wanted i was wondering if you could reflect on that. and doris kearns goodwin i'm reading no ordinary time and it's incredible. >> thank you. >> i was wondering this is such an a question so choose whatever part you would like. either comparisons between t.r. and fdr similarities, dissimilarities, reflections given that yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the killing of kennedy and how in the world do we get to campaign finance reform. everyone is so disheartened about where we are. what do you see in the future? thank you so much. >> i don't know if this is in my job description to answer that question. but i heard something about the league of nations in there somewhere, which woodrow wilson desperately wanted to have passed so we might have fought the war to end all wars. wilson was at transient gent and for a couple of reasons ,-com,-com ma one of which he was a stubborn guy is a rule. when he was over in paris and he was there for six months the president of the united states left the country for six months to negotiate this treaty. during that time especially toward the end he was saying gee i really have a country to get home to he began to make some compromises, some small ones and wanted to be compromises in the end. he came back and i think when he found the senate that was going to be completely and willing to accept the treaty with its lead that is the moment the curtain came down for wilson and he said i'm not giving away another thing. indeed this congressional battle went on for weeks which is what prompted his tour of the country. even after he had come home to battle still went on in the senate. wilson even though compromises were presented would not hide them and it very and his great rival in the senate, the dean of the republican party and the head of the foreign relations committee henry cabot lodge did come in with an 11th hour compromise which was a few sentences and largely intact tickled. wilson simply would not lie it. so i feel he is the stuff of greek tragedy. this is a man who didn't just shoot himself in the foot. he truly stabbed himself in the heart. >> i think what that raises is when you live but these people for so long you really do end up caring about them so when they disappoint you and they did things he wished they hadn't done, obviously i adored franklin roosevelt and eleanor and yet wishing that fdr had opened the doors for more jewish refugees before hitler close the doors forever. balancing in the end that he was the allied leader that won world war ii and ended the threat of adolf hitler that rate is threat to western celeb alsatian. my kids used to come in and they would hear me, franklin just be nicer to eleanor. she really loves you. eleanor, forget that affair that happened so long ago. similarly with the other roosevelt while i have such respect for his domestic policy and justice views on war i have no respect for him. he would say the victories of war were greater than the pictures of peace at any moment. he had that romanticization of war. at war. i have a son he graduated from harvard college in june of 2001 and was going to go to law school. he volunteered for the army the next day. he was a platoon leader in baghdad and later got a bronze star and went back to afghanistan. .. lory of being a biographer. all human beings have their strength and weaknesses. it's up to us to really not forget the parts that is weak and bring it up. but at the same time, i could never choose somebody ultimately to write about that i didn't want to be with. i loved with them so long. i could never write about hitler or stalin. luckily i have found people i overwhelm overwhelmingly feel affection for. >> the last word hold on. we have been given a ten minute reprieve. >> those who wanted to ask questions can come back. i want to give those chances to people in line first. enabling i'm the executive producer of "forgotten hollywood." what an inspiration you both are to all authors in the room and to everybody at the fair. [applause] just a very simple question. can you both speak to the importance of eugene in the election of 1912? regarding wilson, taft, and roosevelt? ? thank you. >> go ahead. >> well, -- 900,000 votes. >> he if mighty well. he was extremely important. i think he was more than just paprika in the big stew of that election. which was a really fascinating -- you know, there was an election really of ideas. and there was so much progressivism in the air. it becomes extremely important in wilson's life later on. he's one of the people who will be arrested under the wilson law, the alien and is and sedition laws. he was delivering the speech said i know i'm going to be arrested for this. and now i'll tell you. i have gone through the feature -- speech he gave. i keep looking for the sedition. i can't find it. he was basically telling the people some workers that this was a capitalist war, and that they did not have to be cannoned toker in it. and for that, he was arrested. he was put in jail, he was found guilty and went to the supreme court. they came down against him 9-0. he was in prison. it will tell you a lot about wilson. the war is now over. wilson has had a stroke. in he's in the white house he's about to leave the white house. people in his government, his attorney general who basically had put him in jail came to him and said, mr. president, debs is an old man now. he's sick and served his time. the war is over. he's clearly not a danger any longer. here is the pardon all written. all you have to do is put your signature on it. and where the signature would go wilson wrote "denied ." you didn't cross wilson more than once. it was simply because wilson felt one we had gone to war that sort of speech telling people not to go to war that was sedition to him. and he said long i'm in charge of two million people risking their lives, i cannot let anybody speak out against them. and so that is why he was just intransigent on the subject. >> partly of the question nobody is perfect. no president is perfect. i written a book -- [inaudible] and it deals with eastern progressives and their religious -- [inaudible] you mentioned tr and the rough rider that could easy by will called teddy roosevelt and the buffalo soldiers as many as -- [inaudible] and wilson -- my gosh he said -- >> he had a symbolic gesture he invited booker t. washington to dinner and it produced outrage in the south and other part of the country there was equality of a social relationship that he backed down, i think, he -- but he also held imperialist attitudes. racist attitudes. these people are unfortunately men of their generation. his record on race there was a riot in brownsville and a group of blacks arrested because they couldn't figure out who started it. it was wrong, he was wrong. and these are those moments you're absolutely right, when all you can say is that you have to remember the context in which they're leading. even lincoln you know, in the 1850s was against, obviously, against intermarriage. against blacks sitting on juries. hef for the black law. you say how could lincoln have done this? the important thing is he grew from the attitudes and eventually allowed the blacks to come in. they were so important as soldiers in the army it changed the whole course of the war in many ways and issued the emancipation proclamation. there's no answering for them except to pave the context in which they are ruling and see if they are way behind the context or in the middle of it or sometimes if you're lucky, the person you're dealing with is ahead of that. >> jo ann. >> i have a question. -- [inaudible] this is such a magnificent high-level conversation. i want to go a moment of history and passion in a different level. and that is, what did it feel to be like in fenway park -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> i tell you, having been a passionate baseball fan all my life and having only experienced one vict i are with the

lincoln would not approve. that you comment on that, lincoln would disapprove? >> i read that article with some amusement, i have to say, professor rosenkranz. i think that president lincolnwould chuckle at the notion that there is an equation between suspending the writ of habeyuss corps us with a temporary delay in the implementation of regulation that is part of a very complex new law, which is something that happens under all administrations, it has to happen sometimes for practical reasons. why we are making a big fuss about this as a constitutional matter, is not beyond me. i understand why it is being done. if it sounds like politics, that is what it is. to make that kind of comparison doesn't do justice to your position in georgetown. >> thank you. i have too little time for too many questions. let me start by saying that i generally in many respects agree with professor turley about the growth of the imperial presidency over the last half century or more. i'm particularly concerned about the abuse of the war powers by many presidents, the use of state secrets doctrine to prevent enforcement of constitutional wrights, the surveillance that we have seen under bush

. >> through the lens of series was based on, i did a book on lincoln through the lens because the thesis was lincoln was among the first generation of human beings ever to be photographed. and the photographs tell you more about words because he learned how to use them to his advantage. then i did kennedy through the lens as a young adult because of the great peril. this is not the kind of book. we did want to have portfolios of photographs. what we tried to do is just have them go the way the book does. just have almost every topic have at least one, and there's a very surprising series of letters between kennedy and david, not only for premier official but the founder of israel. in which they are very angry letters. kennedy is saying, i'm killing myself trying to get the nuclear test ban treaty. i fully -- i even got charles de gaulle on board and you keep testing. you've got to stop. is easy for you to say sitting in hyannis port. i'm sitting with arabs all around and join me to give up nuclear testing. and kennedy threatened him in such a way that he resigns. i want to you the iphone articles no

lincoln did not decide early until last minute lincoln very often did. he probably met with the pennsylvania governor curtain on november 14 and that's i think when lincoln realized he had to decide and he did decide to go. he then probably on the night of november 17, just as he said to his old friend james speed, the brother of his dear friend. lincoln told james speed the night of november 17 i found time to write half of a speech. i think there is good evidence lincoln was not invited early and wrote the speech late. that does not mean it was not important to him. he invited a lot of people to go. he took care and attention over his words once he knew he was going. >> events and circumstances surrounding abraham lincoln's getsburg address. sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern part of american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> next c-span's year in review series continues with a look at the federal bunlts and government shutdown. followed by a discussion on the obama administration 2014 legislative agenda. then the role of women leaders in politics. >> the beginning of october 2013 was a perfect storm of politics and policy with implementation of many e

he also compared mandela to gandhi, martin luther king, and abe happen lincoln as world -- abraham lincoln leaders celebrated his life. >> he also was quoted, our president, as saying he changed laws and also changed hearts. certainly seemed to have a united response behind him in his speech and tribute to nelson mandela. >> he's in everybody's history books. i don't care what country you're in or how you were brought up. he is the definition of an impactful life. so that's why the memorial means so much and why that's been going on all weekend long. >> indeed. it's supposed to be four hours. got started about an hour late because of the terrible rain. >> still going on. >> yeah. the stadium is only two-thirds full, but the folks who are there, a part of history. >> to watch it in its entirety, go to foxnews.com. >> streaming live. we have been telling you -- we've on this program and this channel have been telling you for years about obamacare and some of the hidden dangers. now they're all played out. when the president said, if you want your plan, you can keep your plan. not true. if yo

lincoln. illinois governor pat lincoln has signed sweeping pension reform into law.ad. >>> so much has been made of amazon's drones. we'll talk to the man who brought robotics to amazon, coming up. >>> but first, we start with the market, as mentioned, the dow up triple digits here, ending a long stretch of losses, at least for the start of the month. the market rallying on a better-than-expected jobs report. let's bring in david kelley, chief global strategist with jpmorgan funds, and jack oleman, and, guys, good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> david, i see here you think this report takes us one step closer to the fed tapering. what is the timing for that move, do you think? >> i think it's a 50/50 as to whether they taper in december. i mean, most people will say they'll wait until january. but when i look at it, if you look at what bernanke said back in june, everything that he said in june would suggest that he should taper now in december. and i know they can -- they can maybe come up with some other excuse for delays, but if you're going to depen

lincoln really a nice guy? >> he was. i covered the second lincoln inaugural and it was good. the gettysburg address was not quite as good as it sounded. it was not nearly as good as it sounds now. >> got you. >> do you think the right are more forgiving than the left when it comes to ideologies? >> i don't know. maybe not. maybe there's that's whole spectrum of the right, maybe far right is not. but here's the thing, i think these guys do themselves a disservice, sean penn, ben afleck. anyone that's an actor. half the country is red. and when you talk like that you alienate your potential audience. but i'm all for it. free speech. knock yourself out. have an opinion. i don't care if actors or athletes have an opinion. state your opinion. i like to know where you stand on stuff. >> the interesting thing is a lot of their opinions, this is not an original thought from me. it's an adolescent thinking because they weren't involved in anything except becoming famous so now they feel guilty and now they go to crusade on issues. >> they think they're intellectuals. just a little bit

lincoln. >> certainly the kennedy assassination was i think the worst thing in american life since the murder of abraham lincoln years earlier. and jackie wanted to be made. she wanted the president to fly in his casket in revco's in the white house, close coffin and lincoln was open to the the million people saw his body. 100 fils and children but jackie decided that it didn't look like him anymore. you couldn't tell what had happened to him. his face was cricket after the assassination and damaged, but she was appalled and she said no just keep it closed. the marines were called in the middle of the night and they marched on to the white house ground. he was taken in the procession to the capitol in the artillery taken across to pennsylvania avenue. one interesting thing that jackie did for him, she really never left him alone from the time that he was killed. she rode with him in the car to parkland and she was at the emergency room table when he was treated and rode with him on the air force one on the ride back except when the post in the photograph of lyndon johnson they sat next to the coffin on the trip back. she went with him to bethesda naval hospital from 7:00 at night until 4:30 in the morning she finally took him home to the white house in th

lincoln. helm.y he took the never a majority of loyal americans who thought lincoln, in fact, was a dictator , which is what he was called by his critics. reagan had some of that as well. lucky presidents have it. it sustains them. so at the end of his second term, he was able to come back with a policy, a historically significant policy, arms control , and you saw his numbers shoot back up again. weres almost as if people willing to say, no one is perfect, you made a mistake, you owned up to it, we are willing to move beyond it. not forget it, but move beyond it. host: we're talking with richard ofton smith, a scholar public policy and history at george mason university. a man who knows his presidents very well. he served as director of the gerald ford presidential library of museum, the herbert hoover presidential library, the ronald reagan presidential library. and lincoln. let's not forget springfield. host: he is here to answer questions. margaret is up next. caller: hello. happy new year to everyone. the lack of majority in congress senate for a second-term presidency, does that have anything to do with the polls , and the less effective the president has become? guest: that is a great question. there is something called the six-year curse. that affects great presidents, insignificant presidents, across the board. that is in the sixth year of a yearidency, the off- elections tend to go very badly against the party in the white house. it happened to dwight eisenhower . it happens to franklin roosevelt in 1930 a. 1938. in recent years, george bush experienced it in 2006. 1998, inton did not in large part because it was a perception that there was a backlash against the impeachment attempt. by and large, the sixth year is a year that the party in power dreads. right now i have no doubt the democrats are looking at the senate majority and worrying about

lincoln a nice guy? >> he was a good guy. and i covered the second lincoln inaugura inauguratal -- inaugural and it was good. and the gettysberg address is not as good as it sounds now. >> do you think the left are right when it comes to ideologies? i don't know. maybe not. maybe there is the whole spectrum of the right or the far right. but i think these guys do themself a disservice, sean penn, ben afleck, half of the country is conservative and when you talk like that you alienate others. but have an opinion. state your opinion. i would like to know where you stand on stuff. >> the interesting thing is, andrea, and a lot of the opinions, this is not an original thought for me, but it is an add less ebt kind of thinking -- adolescent kind of thinking because they weren't involved in anything except coming famous and now they feel guilty and they go to crusade on issues and they are like a freshman in college. >> well they pride themself -- a little bit of knowledge -- sophomores, the definition of sophomoric. and this was poses to ben afleck and so he is l

lincoln realized he had to decide and did decide to go. he then probably on the night of november 17 just as he said to his old friend, the brother of his dear friend from springfield, lincoln told him that he wrote half of his speech and wrote the rest there. i think there is very good evidence that lincoln was not invited early and wrote the speech late. but he invited a lot of people to go and took care and attention over of his words once he knew he was going, but just because he didn't write it for two, three weeks. >> historians talk about events and circumstances surrounding lincoln's get is burg's address getties esident's -- burg address this weekend on c-span3. >> this week on "q & a," former united states senate historian, richard baker discusses "the american senate." it was co-authored with the late journalest. >> richard baker, co-author of the american senate, a brand new book with -- how did you get together with neil mack neil to do the book? >> he is one of those figures who not only did he work as "time" magazine's chief congressional correspondent for 30 years and came to the hill in 1949, when he retired in the mid-1980's, he went to work on what would be a quick one-volume history of the senate. he tried to finish it up and he came by our office on numerous occasions

lincoln's speech so special is that it is a two minute speech in which lincoln reunites the declaration of independence and the constitution had been the dominant document, one that let people look at and what does it mean to be an american and how do we structure this complex country. lincolncomes along and says that the constitution defines the structure of who we are. but the declaration of independence describes the spirit of who we are. and i think it is peculiarly important in the current presidency an eye and i by the way think it was entirely appropriate the president obama did not go to gettysburg. because i think that there is almost nothing in his current pattern which would be worthy of being near abraham lincoln. [applause] [applause] and i do not want to be partisan. but i do believe that it is important to look at contacts. lincoln was all about the rule of law and he understood as someone who had grown up poor, who had only had about a year and a half of schooling and had learned how to read by the light of a fireplace because his family could not afford candles. he understood that it is the rule of law that protects the weak and the average person in them without this it is the predators and the vicious and the powerful. and so he saw what we were fighting