gerri: lycee at the root of my bowling trophy?rri: exactly, but you're talking about things there are really personalized. they can't really see what is going on, and you have to take out more than you expect, i think. at the end of the day really make a bare bones of the you can get a sense of the space, maybe even downsize furniture and put it stores. you have to deep water and make everything look smaller so that the house looks bigger. >> not just boxing enough, but a friend or relative letting east tour that their house, just so you have a more spacious look to your house, garage, attic and all aspects. they're looking in every aspect of that home. gerri: we're showing pictures of mention right now. maybe that is where we are moving to after we sell, but let's talk about the outside. what do you do to the exterior to welcome people? >> i tell you what, curb appeal still matters. so many potential buyers will drive by before they commit to going in and beating and looking inside, so make sure it is welcoming. cut back tribes t