. >> as judge rhoade said in his opinion, that the pensioners have a contractual right. what's been a discussion for long standing sense of issues come up. it's whether or not how they will be treated because in the state constitution of michigan they are protected, but in this instance federal law trumps our state constitution. >> i wonder if you have any regrets about things you did when you were mayor? >> i don't. >> i'm thinking specifically of the deal you had with governor engler where the state was supposed to be paying over $330 million a year to the city. >> $3.9 million and i regret it was not lived up to. as the governor indicated in an article when asked about it, he said he was faced with an epic financial crisis and he had to make cuts. they did not follow through on their commitment. i'm hopeful since the state of michigan is now flush that at some point in time when this thing is over that the state will perhaps step up and make up for it. >> part of the problem is just looking at the population in detroit. it's been cut by over half. i think there's a po

right wing less than ten percent are liberal and in fact just today premier networks said that randy rhoads is going to be taken off of the air no no no this is a meeting that they've created it is not true and it is time that we start standing up for all of our rights to have our access to the microphones our first amendment rights are being violated abbi we all deserve to get our views over the publicly owned airwaves i couldn't agree more why you know why i talk radio why is this the primary culprit here talk radio really is the easy thing for people to get as they're driving in their cars as they're commuting across the country it is the thing that has really i think driven our entire culture and if we look back at one nine hundred ninety six which is when the whole talk radio landscape changed and fast forward to today i think what we're going to see is that the entire culture has changed now we're not even able to sit at our kitchen counters. anymore and have a discussion rather we're having a shouting match and one side is absolutely convinced that they have the facts because they've

lot of legal experts about this case and strongly believe at this point that federal judge steven rhoadesill talk about the bankruptcy but we know there are retirees who are very, very nervous right now because they risk losing a lot. after four months of court hearings a federal judge will rule on weather detroit is eligible for chapter 9 bankruptcy. >> bankruptcy is a term that none of us ever want to get to this point. >> reporter: facing a staggering $18 billion in long-term debt, the city appointed emergency manager and kevin ore made it clear before the federal judge that everything from the city's assets like master pieces at the detroit institute of arts to encure debts like retiree pensions may be up for grabs. >> to me that is robbery. >> reporter: donald smith is one of some 20,000 retirees worried, anxiously awaiting the judge's decision. >> i'm not asking him to give me anything but what i earned. >> reporter: smith worked nearly 30 years as a city detention officer. he is concerned his $800 pension check could be stripped away or reduced making hard times even worse. >> ther