>> rick ledgett: for 25 years. >> miller: how many television interviews have you done? dgett: one, this one. >> miller: ledgett runs the n.s.a. task force doing the damage assessment on the snowden leaks. and until this interview, the n.s.a. has never discussed the specifics of the extent of damage they believe snowden has done and still could do. there've been all kinds of figures out there about how much he took, how many documents. we've been told 1.7 million. >> ledgett: i wouldn't dispute that. >> miller: how is that possible? >> ledgett: so, the people who control that, the access to those machines, are called system administrators, and they have passwords that give them the... the ability to go around those security measures, and that's what snowden did. >> miller: edward snowden worked for the n.s.a. in hawaii. part of his job was to help maintain the n.s.a.'s computers, and also to move large sets of data between different systems. did he take everything he had access to, or was he a careful shopper? >> ledgett: he did something that we call "scraping," where he

the man's name is rick ledgett and i really don't want to read a quote from him said my personal view is yes it's worth having a conversation about i would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured and my bar for those assurances would be very high it would be more than just an assertion on his part so what are your thoughts on edward snowden receiving any type of amnesty is it possible at this point or is it possible ploy to get him back into the u.s. . i think it's possible but it's extremely unlikely number one you have the problem mr ledger just referred to how could snowden show or prove that there was no way that these documents could get out as we understand he's shared a lot of them with various journalists in different parts of the world there's really no way to provide an assurance that they might not release other documents that haven't made their way into the public domain another big hurdle here is there's a large standing justice department policy in the united states that says that the department doesn't negotiate with fugitives about anything othe

rick ledgett said that amnesty could be given if snowden returned all the documents obtained. >> what were your thoughts on making a deal? personal, it is worth having a conversation. i would need assurances that the rest of the data could be secured. my bar for that security would be very high. >> is that a unanimous feeling? >> it is not unanimous. in the same segment, his , saysor, keith alexander he opposes amnesty for snowden. >> this is analogous to a hostage taker taking 10 people hostage, shooting 10, and then saying if you give me 40, i will let the others go. i think people have to be held accountable for their actions. what we do not want is for the next person to do the same thing with another set of data knowing they can strike the same deal. are stillicials unaware of exactly how much information he took from their system. a kansas airport technician was arrested friday after trying to carry out an alleged bomb threat. terry loewen used to security access to carry a truck that he thought was carrying explosives onto the tarmac in wichita, but it was billed must oscillate

i think at the very least it's on rick ledgett's table, that official you just quoted there in the "60 minutes '"story, said it's worth having a conversation about in terms of granting edward snowden amnesty for the documents, classified information he leaked to the news media. i did talk to a senior administration official earlier this morning who emphasized that is that official's opinion, it is not the opinion of the administration or of this white house and i want to throw up on screen, carol, a quote that was given to us by the national security spokeswoman, kaitlin hayden, with respect to that interview last night on "60 minutes" about edward snowden. "there's been no change in u.s. policy on this issue. mr. snowden is charged with a felony and he should return home to face those charges, where he will be afforded all due process," and carol, that is consistent with everything we have heard from white house press secretary jay carney and other administration officials throughout this process, they believe edward snowden committed a variety, a whole slew of crimes in leaking this