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on friday, january 27, 1967, three astronauts -- virgil grissom, edward hice -- entered the craft designatedo conduct a preflight test. that test conductors were dubbed ready to pick up the count, and ground instruments showed an unexplained rise in the oxygen flow into the spacecraft. about six seconds later, the frantic voice of ed white came over the intercom. a fire in the cockpit. >> they were inside a spacecraft in pure oxygen, that's a recipe for disaster. all they needed was a spark, and unfortunately, they got one. >> from a piece of exposed, uninsulated wiring. why couldn't they get out? >> the hatch was on the inside pressing against the hull. so to remove the hull, you had to turn it in. when the fire started, you have 50,000 pounds pressure holding that door in place. >> all three men were dead. >> we lived near the wife of one of the crewmember, pat white. >> bill anders had the unenviable task of breaking the news to the wife of edward white. >> and that was a pretty tough deal. when i stopped in front of the house, she saw me coming, and even though she had not heard, i could

joining us now, congressman scott virgil, mber of the budget committee as well as armed services committeessman, good to have you with us. i knowow that you and many of yr colleagues in the house got particularly cellular cells as conservatives, you wrestle mightily with how to vote on this. what was the deciding point for you in casting your vote to support it? >> well, thank you for the opportunity to talk about a critical topic for our country, the alternatives before us for this, and five voted no we would have had continued -- continuing resolutions where we find things that did not need to be funded and they were not finding things that should be funded. i have been among, i think, the strongest advocates for returng to regular order where we have a top line budget and have agreed to that in this agreement. and then we work through all the appropriations bills. go ahead. lou: and if the senate approves and it is almost a certainty that there will tomorrow approve it and move it on to my regular order will be restored. we are talking about $85 billion against the budget in excess of 3

justify the rulemaking with a willingness to pay the surveys i i'm also worried that this country virgil methodology won't encroach into other rulemaking. if this happens public opinion polling will become the backbone of many epa regulations instead of science that i think it's important states are allowed to continue exercising permitting discussion and asking can you confirm that the final 316 will will not require states to consider the nonuse benefits or require plant owners to conduct a willingness to pay surveys in the permitting process? >> the final is at the office of management and budget so i am constrained about going into too much detail but we have heard similar comments during the public process. the survey that we did was appropriate on a national level to get a handle on people's willingness to pay for the types of improvements that these technologies would bring. we don't expect that to be the way in which they make the case by case decision. >> the most important thing is on the public opinion polls. you can ask us how we feel about them and the accuracy of them based