chief suhr and public defender adachi spoke to the fact that it's very difficult to go to san bruno. we need families to see their families. it helps them while they're incarcerated. it gives them hope that they will be out and see their families. going to san bruno is impossible. we go thereby car. it takes 45 minutes to get there. so, i want you to please be mindful of those who are in and those who come out, and that help is needed badly. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >>> supervisors, i'm terry anders of anders and anders foundation. it probably will be a jail bill. but like mindy kener who spoke before me, why can't reentry be part of that? see, too often the economics is the about the politics and the politics is about the economics. the people who are poor and incarcerated because they don't have the wherewithal to get themselves into another situation. so, since you are public officials, you're talking about building a public institution with incarceration, which there are some people that probably need to be there. but the reality is why not help change that

i want to thank public defender adachi for his patience. thank you for being here and thank you for your report. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. my office provides legal representation to over 20,000 people every year. about 80% of the people who are in custody are our clients. they're not just there just to sit and wait in due time, but they're there to get justice through the courts. and that's why i do believe that it's important that we have a facility that is close to the courthouse. and i'm not in favor of having all of the pretrial prisoners housed at san bruno. for many years the prison population or jail population in san bruno was limited to post conviction or people who are post sentence. and we rarely had a client that we had to go out and see at san bruno unless it was the same situation. now it's very common. i know we have clients at san bruno. and, so, our attorneys have to travel back and forth and it's a good 25, 30-minute drive out there at times. and, again, i think important for our attorneys to have access t