again, tell us about the dream, martin, tell us about the dream. >> and then in the words of clarence jones, king puts his text to the left of the podium, and in his body language changes from a lecturer to a preacher. and jones turns to the person next to him and says those people don't know it, but they're about to go to church. and then king says for though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, i still have a dream. at which point wyatt t. walker, the man who had advised him not to do it, turns to the person next to him and says, oh, shit, he's doing the dream. [laughter] so that's how we got there. and what's interesting is that when you ask people who were there at the time and who knew king well, to a person they will tell you that they did not -- of all the speeches that he made, this was not particularly one that they thought we would be talking about in 50 years' time. it was a great speech. none of them, you know, deny that. but many of them have different speeches that they thought were better, and ask either way they said great speeches was what king did. ask so i spen

in the words of clarence jones king puts his text to the left of the podium. s body language changes from a lecture to a preacher and jones just the person next to him and he says those people don't know him but they are about to go to church. and being king says for though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow i still have the dream at which point wyatt tee walker who is in the crowd turns to the person next to them and says oh he is doing the dream. [laughter] that is how we got there and what is interesting is that when you ask evil who are there at the time and who knew king well, to a person they will tell you that they did not, of all the speeches there he made, this was not particularly one that they thought we would be talking about in 50 years time. it was a great speech but none of them denied that, but many of them have different speeches that they thought were better and either way they said great speech was what king did. i spend a fair amount of time in the book looking at why that is. i want to kind of really suggest two things here. the

and according to clarence jones who drafted much of the text, king keeps closer to this text than he would regularly keep. those who wrote speeches for king said they were always king speeches basically, but you would be, in clarence jones' words, like a very crude architect. you would set up the four walls, and then king like a beautiful interior designer would come and make it his own. king speaks very faithfully to the main text. but then as -- and if you listen to the speech, and i would advise you to listen to it, it's the most popular, least well known speech i've heard of. when i told my brother i was doing this book, he said i love that speech, it's such a great sweep be, you know? that thing about been to mountaintop, and i've seen the promised land -- i said it's a great speech, but it's not that speech. [laughter] he's winding up. he's just going back to mississippi, go back to louisiana, go back to south carolina, go back to alabama, go back to your northern homes and ghettos knowing that somehow this situation will be resolved. behind him is hittingmy hail ya jackson, a

and according to the clarence jones who drafted much of the text king is closer to this text than he would regularly keep. those who wrote speeches for king said they were always king's speeches, but you would set up the four walls and king like a beautiful interior designer would come make it his own. and he speaks faithfully to the main text. if you listen to the speech, and i would advice you, it is the most poplar and least well-known speech i heard of. my brother said i love the speech. that is a great speech. the thing about being at the mountain top was great. and he is winding up saying go back and know the situation well be resolved. jackson is behind him who is a close and special friend. when king was on the road, he would call jackson for what they termed gospel therapy. he would call and ask her to sing to him when he was down. he is winding down. go back to your homes and ghettos knowing the situation will be resolved. she is shouting telling him about the dream, mom. she had heard him deliver the section in june in detroit. king continues let us not wallow in the valle

tavis: clarence jones, king's longtime friend and lawyer, was one of those who wrote a draft of the speech, which dr. king quickly rejected. >> he says, "clarence, i thought you were my radical." i said, "i don't quite understand what you mean." he says, "what is this? you go on and state the issue in the war, and then you say, 'but on the other hand,' and then you go on and state it, and you say, 'but on the one hand and the other hand.'" he says, "clarence, you above all people should know that the vietnam war is either morally right or morally wrong. it's not on the one hand or on the other hand." tavis: to get the speech he wanted, dr. king then turned to one of his closest friends, vincent harding. he's credited with writing the basic framework of the speech, which king then embellished. tavis: that legal folder that's sitting on your lap -- what have you inside that folder? >> okay, well, this is my file for that first draft of the speech that was delivered in this place. tavis: can i touch this? >> you may touch it, but don't touch it too hard. [laughter] tavis: wow. i'm immediately