joining us now is deborah hersman. her agency is investigating that accident. the crude oil moving through these pipelines what happens next? >> one of the things that's really important to take note of is the increase in both ethanol and crude that has taken place as far as shipments in this country. both are up by over 400% since 2005 and clearly there's a lot that's good for business here. but there's also some safety concerns. >> especially high liked by the tragic derailment that killed several dozen people and i wonder if this means that the obama administration is now going to move towards saying that crude, for example, has to be transported via pipeline ironically it's the hang up of the pipeline extension. >> you know, we can see crude being transported in many different ways and certainly here in this area with respect to the bakken fields they didn't have a lot of infrastructure in place as this boom occurred. they are putting much of that in place. we're seeing a lot of transport by surface operations, especially by rail. a lot of unit trains movin

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