dr. ron paul says this is what you get when the government gets involved. dr. paul, welcome back to the program good to see you again, sir. >> thank you, stuart. good to be with you. >> does this obama car fiasco spell the end of activist government? >> i wish. but, no, there's a lot of die-hards out there. there will be excuses made and politicians will spin it put it will end because it's a disaster. this is a sign that the delivery of healthcare will even be worse than signing up for the healthcare. so, it's a tax in many ways because the insurance policies are going up. but the big thing they never talk about is, the government is supposed to be involved in contracts and having policy. one is to guarantee the policy, and you can't cancel it. here the government gets involved and all of a sudden insurance companies can cancel you willy-nilly. they thought they would get a big deal because they would get more customer, then they had mandates and had to put certain things on and it's skyrocketing. the cost of medical care, when it's all added up, is going to be

dr. ron paul.

dr. ron paul.

especially our next guest, a lifelong fed doubter and former presidential candidate and host of the ron paul channel, drlf. great to see you. you have said that janet yellen will be worse than average as a chairman of the fed. why do you think that? >> well, mainly because she has spoken out very clearly, not only endorse principles of the fed, they all endorse, they have the magic power what the supply of money should be and interest rates should be, that is being pretty smart but really believes in the expansion of money and credit. she supports it all the time. i don't quite see here as being the one that is going to unwind unwind all purchases of bonds she has. so what will happen is, the economy is going to weak own and she will back off. she sincerely believes the fed's responsibility is to buy, buy, buy and keep interest rates low but where can she go? it is zero. you can't get much lower. i think she will have a dilemma because i don't think we're out of the woods yet. david: she and chairman bernanke, outgoing chairman bernanke both claimed credit for some of the positive things that happened i