. >> you mentioned a generational change, and i did back of the envelope calculation between joe reilly in charleston, john hickenlooper in denver, gavin newsome and michael bloomberg. that's more of a century of city hall experience walking out the door in the next two years. >> yes, michael bloomberg will do consulting for cities in his time ahead of him. certainly those leaders of some of the largest cities have had some great programming, some great success, some serious challenges, and some set backs. i think if you look at the totality of cities some leadership like new york, chicago, los angeles, charlie hails, the new mayor in portland is coming back after having been a city commissioner. there is a lot of good talent focused on problem solving, focused on doing work in city, which is ultimately making places to live better for their citizens, and they've been doing it in the midst of the economic recession without much help from the states or federal government. >> not that it's ever a great time to be running a city. but with the recession they were taking in less money, and t