pleasure to welcome to larry king now an old friend frequent guest with us on our previous show joel o'steen he's been hailed as the most watched inspirational figure in america he's pastor of lakewood church in houston usually popular televangelist and a new york times best selling author his latest book is break out five keys to go beyond your barriers and live an extraordinary life will ask about the book and a little while for a couple of facts about mr o'steen past or is now the largest church in america a weekly sermon watched by more than ten million viewers on television seen in one hundred countries has a podcast that averages ten they have million downloads a week the church has sixteen thousand seats did you ever think early on you would have all this and if your father was a preacher and my father was a preacher and i worked behind the scenes for him and i didn't want to preach i don't want to get in front of people because it. just i didn't think it was in me but when my dad died nine hundred ninety nine suddenly i stepped up to pass for the church but never dreamed it would gro