and karl brauer is a senior director at kelley blue book, a company widely known for its research and data about pricing and reviews. so let me start with you, what were your impressions from the floor? >> well, it would appear that detroit is getting the band back together again. the sort of the conditions of the mid 2000 bubb sell there in forces. a lot of focus on big trucks, big suvs, the new escalade was there, the new cadillac coup, cadillac has had a great year. and so a lot of the conditions are reoccurring. there is a lot of cheap money out there, a lot of incentives. there's moderate fuel price pressures. you've got manufacturing with these very intense volume driven business plans that is sort of kicking this all over. >> so do you detect a sort of confidence in the industry right now? i mean this is one of the firstiers that the u.s. government is really out of chrysler and gm. >> yes, you could call it confidence. you could call it pernicious amnesia. you know, is a little eerie to walk through the show and see soch of the same film we saw six or seven years ago. and part