the county executive with howard county, ken ullmyou ulman is wi now.e was at the police chief brief an hour and a half ago commemorating this has ban cooperative effort by so many agencies on the local and state levels, and, ken if you're with me and able to hear me, do you know whether or not this mall has since been secured, about an hour and a half ago, police said they still had some patrons and employees inside the mall and were unable to lift that lockdown. what's the latest now? >> yeah. thank you for having me and thank you for your attention to this. no. our law enforcement folks are still going through the mall, systemically. every, combing every inch of the mall. wanting to check every room and if you can imagine, a very large shopping mall, all of the rooms, dressing rooms, offices, throughout this mall, to make sure that everyone is safe. there are a number of folks who are still shelters in place. and so they're going through our s.w.a.t. team, tactical teams, with our regional partners from a number of other counties and the state police