so you need some incentives in the marketplace if you want a capital listic economy. >> incentives work. >> you are not going to get food stamp reform or welfare reform until you get the economy moving again, which means simplifying the tax code, reducing tax rate, stabilizing the dollar, getting rid of obamacare and bringing in a market-oriented healthcare system and effective safety net. >> what about the dependency? the idea that welfare does, sort of sometimes stimulate sense of dependency on the part of its recipients? that is deadly. >> it is. this administration unfortunately likes that kind of thing. the administration should be cracking down on abuse of food stamps. which is widespread. you are not going to get real reform. most americans would like to work. we don't have the european style culture yet, but that is why we'll get the economy moving. >> john, must be like a pressure cooker. you had the pressure put on from rick. respond. >> if you want to help the po people, and i think we do, why would you foist the federal government on them? they are the least qualified at bri

guest: so i grew up in chicago, and you can't as a young black kid in chicago have a view, an eyed listic, romantic view of the policing with your friends, as the guys who help you when your cat gets stuck in a tree. of that's not how it was where i grew up. and when i went to law school, people thought that i was this kind of down for the cause brother who would come out and work for legal aid or be a public defender. but i'd heard that prosecutors had all this power. and the way to make a change was to create change from the inside. so i went in as this kind of undercover brother who wanted to see what i could do from the inside. it didn't work. [laughter] what i found was that rather than change the system, the system changed me. it's not like i started on the first day calling the defendants all these kind of bad words that the prosecutors use to talk about the defendants. that took a while. but needless to say, in prosecutors' offices, defendants aren't held in high regard. so when you think about the things that i was concerned about like unequal education, the lousy miseducation of

writing, "i found her smart, ied listic, but pragmatic, tough minded, funny, a very valuable colleagueive of the united states all over the world. wow, almost like an endorsement of her to be the next president of the united states, but look at this criticism here. it could be damaging and he may not have meant it to be damaging, but this excerpt which says her opposition to the iraq war was politically motivated. it reinforces an idea her decisions are politically calculated, she's a clinton, if you will, she will say and do anything to win. it's one of the worst knocks against anybody with the last name of clinton and gates's comments could make it tough for her to shake it, especially now if she's having to placate the left again, which is much stronger today than it was even in '06 and '07, so it can have an impact on the primary, make it tough to deal with the de blasio/warren wing. on foreign policy and a host of other issues. anyway, be very interesting. this is part of the issues that she's got to straddle here. again, gates and her were very close. there's no doubt in my mind

in his book, gates say, style listically, bush and obama had much more in common than i expected. both were most comfortable around a cadre of aides and friends and largely shunned the washington social scene. both i believe detested congress and resented having to deal with it, including members of their own party. they both had the worst of both worlds on the hill. they were neither particularly liked nor feared. nor did either work much at establishing close personal relationships with other world leaders. both presidents in short seemed aloof from two subsequencies important to their success. joining me now is the co-author of the book "hubris" and e.j. dion, a columnist for "the washington post." e.j., the coverage of the book so far to me, i'm a bit sir prized at. robert gates, former defense secretary offers harsh critique of obama's leadership. i don't see the harsh critique here. everything i'm seeing in here is gates talking about things that happened in the administration that he acknowledges that actually perfectly normal things that happen in all administrations. >> f

so he proceeded to conclude that industry must be changed from a feud listic to a democratic social order, and educational practice should be designed to encourage creativity, exploration, independence, cooperative work. exactly the opposite of what's happening today. well, these ideas lead to a vision of society based on workers' control of productive institutions, the link to community control within the framework of free association and federal organization. in the general style of thought that includes, of course, along with many anarchists others too, say g.d.h. cowles, the left anti-bolshevik marxism, the current developments, for example, the participatory or economics in politics of michael albert, stephen shall um and ores along -- others along with important work in theory and practice by the late seymour mehlman, his associates and many others. and notably -- [inaudible] very valuable recent contributions on worker-owned enterprise and cooperatives. not just talk, but actual taking place. well, going back to dewey, he was as american as apple pie, to borrow the old cliche. righ

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prefers order to justice, who feels he can set a timetable for another man's freedom, who paternal listically says to wait, right? for a more convenient season. and if we have that king, right? the work is not done, right? >> i mean, there is -- i mean, related to that there is this interesting, i think, way of understanding it. if you think how unpopular king was when he died and then you look at other people who were unpopular and other things that are unpopular now and how king shifts from being second only to mother teresa to being deeply unpopular, then it's a kind of useful way of understanding, well, who are we excluding at this moment? .. only 25% agree with the king after that speech. that doesn't even get us to white americans. so that, like, the degree of unpopular we forget. like kerry saying, right, the need for us to reflect on who is unpopular and what that message may mean for where we need to go. >> we can reflect on who is popular in the same way. what's going to happen with barack obama? what is going to happen with the way we remember his legacy? we're going to ca gain con

other signals you could detect schooner, but i think -- sooner, but this may not be the kind of fatal listic objection that you heard or maybe something about clive's story that he was leaving out when you find that the first people to raise this was us. clive said that it's naive for scientists to imagine they can isolate themselves in a cocoon of scientific neutrality. yeah, that's why i quit my job in physics 25 years ago, because of the connections to nuclear weapons and began to work on socially-relevant things. that's why i walked out of the lab and spent a lot of time working with lawyers, with activists, learning how to teach in public policy institutions, doing explicit research on the ways in which science is not isolated from the world and the ways in which political and social forces shape what happens in science. i've spent a lot of my career working on that. so it's kind offed, i mean, i -- odd, i mean, i have lots of things i do wrong and make mistakes, and the fundamental thing here is this shouldn't be personal. but clive has taken the time to say all these things that are k

is that journal listic malpractice? let's bring in our panel.litzer prize-winning reporter and fox news contributor and. laura is a analyst for media buzz and fox news contributor as well. you saw the piece in your former employer "the new york times" which the author says mr. obama was surprised at the uproar that ensued over the snowden revelations. why would a president be surprised at those kind of reports? >> would you rather be surprised, jon, than irritated which is clear what he was today. it is interesting to me the president singled out to be three parties to be particularly irritated that. one was edward snowden, two was china and three was russia and the press of our first characterization of a program that was almost entirely secret before edward snowden announced it to the world before his leaking. of course he is unhappy. but, mr. president, better get used to it. there will be a lot more of this. jon: the piece from gregory lawrence, said surprised at uproar particularly so that many americans did not trust him and goes on from t

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