the mcguillen, worked for texas secretary of state and ran years.ns in texas for 16 trey grayson was the secretary of state of kentucky for two is now the director of the institute of politics up at harvard. and tammy patrick is the federal officer in maracopa county. nate personally, who i mentioned, is a professor of law par excellence, did i pronounce the excellence part -- >> you're my co-teacher this year. >> that's true. one of the great honor and fun done. i've at stanford university. thelso had three folks from private sector with us. etchverra was the c.e.o. of deloitte tough north america, coleman mays, cornily the general counsel at the new york city public library, had all state general counsel and a number of other fortune of companies for a number years. and brian britton, who when he started on the commission was -- i'm going to get the title slightly wrong, but he was the theme parks for disney because if you're going to mess around with lines, you from disneye a guy there. i should say that brian's best line of the whole commission was after we were talking about lon