mr. brahimi, women are children can leave homs. they can go from homs, and they will have safe passage out of homs or the city of homs. we're told that the men, the opposition are supposed to get together a list of the men so the syrian government can approve that list before they're allowed to leave. i will raise this question. those women and children have been in homs, which in many ways at the beginning of all this was a place that was a cradle of the revolution, and then around homs the syrian government very, very heavy crackdown and also shelling took place in homs, and the center of homs has been besieged ever since. i'm wondering whether the women and children in homs will take up this offer or whether they'll be too scared to go despite the desperate humanitarian conditions. they'll be concerned if they go towards the government side, there will be a reprisal against them. also, they might well be concerned to leave men folk behind there could be reprisals against them, too. it's not clear at this stage whether the women

tory's formally the talks haven't started informally they have been postponed but nevertheless mr brahimi will still be meeting with both sides separately and by the end of the day we're expecting a media conference hopefully will be able to find out if these meetings will bring any results now we also know that the head of the syrian opposition there delegation here in geneva he's leaving this conference but the record the route the rest are remaining and the syrian authorities their delegation is here going to stay as well and like i said they're going to continue talking with mr brahimi about one of the main sticking points is that the opposition continues pressing on their demands for president assad to step down while the authorities are saying that first they have to stop the violence defeat the terror threat in the country and then hold nationwide elections with anyone willing taking part for the syrian people to decide the country's political future so clearly they are not on the same page when it comes to that but like i said once again the talks are going to continue at least wi

mr. brahimi would shuttle and try to get progress on the key issues. that is not taking place.ve learned that is not going to take place. what is happening now is the syrian government is going to meet and then in the afternoon the opposition will meet with mr. brahimi. what has gone wrong? we have the view of the syrian government on what has gone wrong. moments ago i spoke to the syrian deputy foreign minister mcdod. >> we had a good reason with mr. brahimi and i don't like to reveal what happens in these meetings, we agreed today morning at 11:00 we shall meet here and he will chair the meeting, the syrian government on one side, the opposition on the other side and will address both of us. >> and you have no problem with that? >> absolutely not. what are we coming for. >> you think the opposition has a problem with that? >> any change and it must be the other side. >> reporter: so the war of words and the blame game has started even before the talks have started. the syrian government there saying the opposition have clearly some problems and that's why the talks have not s

mr. brahimi stressed yesterday that women, children, and the in prison should be released and he made that very clear. >> reporting from geneva. meanwhile, on the ground in syria rebels and government troops continue to clash. the syrian observatory for human rights reported fierce fighting in damascus and port said area south and -- central domestic the strict. french president francois hollande is flying to turkey today for a landmark visit, the first and 22 years by a french president. the talks, which will be hosted by turkish president abdullah gull are expected to focus on bilateral tiles, turkey's eu bid and the crisis in neighboring syria. however, the visit comes at a critical time when relations with the eu have become tense amid growing concerns about the independence of the judiciary and respect for the rule of law. that is following the government's response to a major corruption scandal. meanwhile, the french mayident's former partner no longer be the french first lady but it has not stopped her from making a humanitarian trip to india. resident hollande confirm the relations

executive powers and also down the right to negotiate a ceasefire which also be difficult said mr brahimi and seasoned diplomat is taking a step by step approach. soft really need the territory for both sides on the negotiating table. the storms are causes for pouring in from geneva also today marks three years the pas since the start of the uprising which houses the former egyptian president hosni mubarak one of santa's buster was observed in markedly different ways but by scores of ministry as well as support has all the muslim brotherhood well as was feared that his rival rights resulting catches in which at least twenty nine people are understood to be channeled for strikeouts. tomas was a house hostel. thousands of egyptians cram in to terrorists were a symbolic sense of the pirates during the push to manage the dictator hosni mubarak from power. the cops appointed to head to boston wanted to proceedings but to drop marks and supports the starting point three years on the square is now a platform for many egyptians to connect and support. yet another minute reminder the lows. i want

they're not on the same page when it comes to that the talks are going to continue at least with mr brahimi at the end of the day hopefully we'll find out if they'll bring any results united nations mediator lakhdar brahimi is meeting with the opposition is set to take place in a few hours time but anti-war activists brian backer believes the syrian rebels are now willing to make any compromises. syrian opposition has come to the conference kicking and screaming in the first place they don't really want to be there because there's nothing that they think that they can get from the conference the syrian opposition only wants one thing which is to replace the assad government with their own government and clearly the assad government at geneva is prepared for a political settlement but won't agree in advance that the assad government will disappear or no longer be present in syria there are forces within the syrian armed opposition those affiliated with al qaida those who are getting the bulk of their arms from saudi arabia and from other regimes in the in the middle east they don't look for

irreconcilable differences between the two parties they sat in the same room they spoke through mr brahimi the u.n. negotiator they spoke to each other there are a lot of rumors that the syrian government had decided that they agreed certainly to talk about a transitional government that's been shut down so really no progress was made no progress was expected except on the humanitarian front there was an attempt to get aid into homes that's not over yet that attempt has happened yet so even that minor victory that they were hoping for the in ago she is the u.n. may not happen ok dan where would you agree with what we just heard from joe here i mean the best thing that's happened with these talks is that they even are happening in the first place i think it's of the chief meant to have both parties in the same room and being able to finally after days of waiting to talk to each other and there was some reported progress being made inside the room we don't haven't seen concrete results yet but one has to hope that these direct talks can go somewhere and become more concrete news from you kno

mr. brahimi was frank. >> we haven't achieved much. but we are continuing. >> reporter: they may not have found common ground today, but given the animosity between the two sides, the fact that they are still here and still looking does count as progress. >>> there was more violence throughout egypt today on the third anniversary of the overthrow of hosni mubarak. at least 25 were killed during a series of clashes between supporters of the military government and infamous backers of the deposed, popularly elected mohamed morsi. there were 4 than 400 arrests. a car bomb exploded outside a police facility in suez city, wounding nine. >>> in afghanistan president hamid karzai said again he will not immediately sign a security deal with the united states that would keep american forces there past the end of the year. >> translator: afghanistan will never sign the security agreement under pressure. if america wants to stay as an ally with us, work with us as an ally, not as an opponent. we afghans know the difference between an ally and an

they were supposed to sit down at the same table and formally greet each other with mr brahimi present there as well but since the opposition said they were not ready to sit down at the same table with the of tory's formally the talks never started so throughout the entire day u.s. special envoy was meeting separately both with the authorities and with the opposition and their representatives had been coming out to journalists and accusing each other basically of sabotaging the integral seizures and it became clear to us that both see the only way out of this crisis is through negotiations based on the agreements reached at geneva one the opposition says that they want to talk about forming a transition transitional government in syria without president assad there while the authorities are saying they're ready to talk about cease fires they're ready to talk about joint efforts and when it comes to president assad a future you know political future that has to be decided by a nationwide election with anyone willing taking part and the people of syria deciding that the talks now are goi

they've got to sit down with mr brahimi and decide that whether there will have talks about what they going to talk about and whether they will sit down in the room all to see each other. and as i say. and despite the bitterness yesterday as they are still here they are still soaking that old sour on track. on the squad will foam they'll say we get to find now. well we cheered when at the summit dead to the max have lasted for the web economic forum in davos so how long would the negotiations las that this time. the rights and yesterday was the big grand ceremonial will want to say which said the us secretary of state said john kerry led to kohl's. fold the replacement of the syrian president said a bus outside um that was headed by the syrian opposition and rejected rampage. by the representatives of the syrian government. hold on. some like cacti in is the five minutes too long the gone off to join just about man. in that house not far from here. in switzerland that there will be dying on the rest of us will be getting on a train and heading over to the swiss capital geneva where we

that's the hope of mr lakhdar brahimi. while they move on to other issues. they talked about humanitarian issues. the opposition came with a list of people they wanted released from gaol. the government sunday have a list, and asked the opposition to provide them with a list of those held by groups that the opposition who are here have control over. what takes place here when the talks start again, and they will initially this morning be in the same room is the hard stuff. yes, the issue of humanitarian access. in terms of negotiation here, they are seen as the easy issues. now they'll talk about the issue of political transition. what is the future role, of assad, his family, those around him and the security chief. that issive. >> thank you james bays, we'll speak to you throughout the day, reporting from geneva. >> now, the military fired tear gas shells at protesters in cambodia's. the owner led about 200 protesters in front of the ministry for information defying a government ban. >> the philippine army launched an offensive. it's happening in the regio

what we want, we submitted a plan for mr lakhdar brahimi to discuss, after the joint confidence in paris, where mr kerry said let's start with aleppo. we said we didn't mind, but to take the terrorists out and allow humanitarian and food and medicine to enter and redeploy police so the city has its normal life, we are ready to do that, and take this example from one to another. please, please, when you hear something verified think about it and see if it's logical or not logical. >> it seems that there's more of an argument over semantics. let's move away from the humanitarian and the ceasefire issues. what else is on the discussion table today? >> well, there hasn't been any progress on the political front. geneva i communique calls for setting up a transitional body. it sees the government duds not see in as a priority. what i was told was they do not consider the people that they are sitting on the same - in the same room with as partners for peace. in her words the s.n.c. is not a legitimate representative of the opposition. for her there are many opposition parties inside syria who

mr. ba he brahimi gave an updat and will join with the two syrian parties on monday. i'm morgan radford, and "the stream" is up next. for news updates all throughout the day, head over to aljazeera.com.

states of america, his excellency mr sergei lavrov, minister of the russian federation, distinguished ministers, royal highness, joint special representatives, lakhdar brahimi. excellencies, ladies and gentlemen. it is my honour and pleasure to welcome you to the high-level segment of the geneva conference on syria. i thank you for accepting my invitation. administered by minister sergei lavrov and secretary of state john kerry on 7 may 2013 in moscow. minister sergei lavrov and secretary kerry have been worked hard together with me and joint special representative lakhdar brahimi and many other partners to bring us to this day. i appreciate in particular the delegations representing the syrian government and the syrian operation here. and i thank you for accepting my invitation. we know that it has been a difficult path to reach this point. we have lost many, many lives. let me know mince words. the challenges before you and all of us are formidable. nevertheless, your presence here raises a hope. i'm convinced of that. however, the syrian parties with the support, and others here can make a new beginning. >> i thank again all the other states from the reg