>> the persian gulf. >> rose: the persian gulf? you never miss the chance to see it is the persian gulf. >> of course it is the persian gulf for thousands of years. >> much of the conflict in the persian gulf is between the desire to be the dominant player between saudi arabia and iran? >> where is that as a factor today? >> >> talking to you is not an easy thing, charlie. let me say two facts here. the first fact is that we have not and we are not trying to dominate the region. and despite some disputes and misunderstandings between iran and a couple of countries in the region. >> rose: the emirates, saudi arabia. >> i don't want to mention any countries. whatever. >> rose: bahrain. >> we have tried to maintain a good relation between iran and especially muslim countries. it has been said by iranian authorities, especially by president rouhani and others that we have to try to have a normal and good and broad relation with all of these muslim countries, especially the countries that you mentioned. so this is the foreign policy, ir

peaceful area both in the persian gulf region as well as beyond the persian gulf region so we're interested i don't think there is any strategic impediment to iran and saudi arabia working together one minute before the end of the show really quick question dallas conference coming up in a few days. president rouhani is going to be there so will be prime minister netanyahu is there any way they too could meet face to. all right thank you very much for this interview. with us good to be with you. millions around the globe struggle with hunger. what if someone offers a lifetime food supply no charge. against g.m.o. and we think that's. the. right products are pretty cool. there is no. evidence that there is any problem with genetic engineering when you make a deal. or is free cheese always in the most trap. is profit. for these golden rice. speak your language. news programs and documentaries in spanish more matches to you. but will turn to angola's stories. that all teach spanish. visit. there is so little self reflection on the part of both them. public and that american decision makers i w

peaceful area both in the persian gulf region as well as beyond the persian gulf region so with interest. i don't think there is any strategic impediment to iran and saudi arabia working one minute before the end of the show really quick question dallas' conference coming up in a few days president rouhani is going to be there so will be a prime minister netanyahu is there any way the two could meet face to. all right thank you very much for this interview iraq's foreign minister mohammad jalloud sorry i tell you with us good to be with you. previously peacekeepers for our concerned with monitoring peace deals post conflict environment nowadays there are increasingly asked to operate in the. violence to meaning. most what these people have caused over almost twenty years four million people killed millions of displaced and refugees tens of thousands of women raped. children recruited those soldiers or slaves no. sleep. on june sixteenth one thousand forty one we had a graduation party at school and the war broke out. the shops were always full of goods. in september leningrad was blocked

peaceful area both in the persian gulf region as well as the persian gulf region so with interest. one minute before the end of the show really quick question coming up in a few days president rouhani is going to be there so will be prime minister netanyahu is there any way the two could meet face to. thank you very much for this interview. with us good to be with you. millions around the globe struggle with hunger. what if someone offers a lifetime food supply no charge. and we think that. there is no. evidence that there is any problem with genetic engineering. or is. always. this golden rice. drama. stories others through a few who still know. the faces changed. so pictures of today's. on demand from around the globe. dropped. to fifty controlling the media agenda as social media expands in scope and influence you tube twitter and facebook entertain and inform hundreds of millions of people every day however the same are used to promote hoaxes and mass propaganda pursuits is it inevitable that eventually media is doomed to fall the whims of those famous hijack big internet. play

both in the persian gulf region as well as beyond the persian gulf region so we're interested. in any strategic impediment to iran and saudi arabia working together one minute before the end of the show with a quick question dallas conference coming up in a few days president rouhani is going to be there so we'll be prime minister netanyahu is there any way the two could meet face to. all right thank you very much for this interview mr muhammad great teddy with us good to be with you. that was our team so peter back to you thank you so if we are to sophie shevardnadze talking to iran's foreign minister sorry following his meeting with russia's top diplomat sergey lavrov more news coming up after this short break stay with our international. when you're followed around when you are being investigated because of the whim of someone this is the beginning of the end of your freedom. american citizens. text messages you know. the calls text messages so you just. everything about my knowledge actually basically there's no legal absolutely yes when you bareback with the internet your

peaceful area both in the persian gulf region as well as beyond the persian gulf region so. i don't think there is any strategic impediment to iran and saudi arabia working together one minute before the end of the show really quick question dallas' conference coming up in a few days president rouhani is going to be there so we'll be israel's prime minister netanyahu is there any way the two could meet face to. all right thank you very much for this interview for mr muhammad. ali with us good to be. on june sixteenth one thousand forty one we had a graduation party at school and the war broke out. shops were always full of goods. in september leningrad was blocked. one day mom went to sort out all the shelves were empty. in november the. warehouses it was the main storage place for all the food in the city people eating the earth because it had small traces of sugar in it i tried to eat it as well but i couldn't. move. incredibly heavy bombing. it was a direct very shelter and everyone was buried underneath. all of them would dead. people. pleasure to have you with us here t

especially in the persian gulf? >> of course it is the persian gulf. for thousands of years. >> how much of the conflict in the persian gulf is between the desire to be the dominant player between saudi arabia and iran? that as a factor today? talking to you is not an easy thing charlie. let me say to fax your. that we havet is not and we are not trying to dominate the region. disputes and misunderstandings, especially between iran and other countries in the region -- >> saudi arabia, the emirates. >> i will not name any countries. we have tried to maintain a relationship between iran and muslims. it has been said by president rouhani and others. we have to try to have normal and good relations with all of these muslim countries. policy, the foreign- irani and foreign-policy principle. .ran is a powerful country nobody can deny it. the point is because iran is a powerful country and iran has a rich history and so on, it does not mean that the iranians are looking for a kind of supremacy or dominating the region. even if you look at the situation case-b

after all, why would we be in the persian gulf? i mean, that had no more justification than for the iranian navy to be around cuba. it just didn't make sense to them geographically. so it must mean we had an ulterior motive. and they have a different way of looking at the relationship, at the role of islam in society. they look at everything in terms of religion the revolutionary leaders do. that does not mean the average iranian does, but the revolutionary leaders do. and that's hard for those of us who live in a constitutionally secular nation to fathom, because religion is so private for us. c-span: how many people live in iran? >> guest: 52 million. c-span: in iraq? >> guest: it's about a third of that a quarter of that. fourteen million, maybe. c-span: in the war that just recently concluded, how many iranians lost their lives? >> guest: well, there are conflicting claims. the iranians claim it's about 120,000, when, in fact, the estimates for the entire war, in terms of casualties, deaths and injuries, go as high as a million

. >> a ray look at military history and how dozens of tanks from world war ii to the persian gulf warill be available for everyone to see. >> is another political scandal brewing for chris christie and the newest allocations involving hurricane sandy relief. marysville . >>> a live look at san francisco city hall on the eve of tomorrow's big game. it's all lit up in red and gold. the 49ers colors and it's kind of like christmas eve for 49ers fans of city hall isn't the only thing in san francisco ready for tomorrow's big match- up. win-or-lose the city is taking precautions against overzellous football fans. debora villalon is live in the mission district. >> reporter: well ken, to discourage cruising these no-stopping signs are all over, and they are planning to divert traffic. the strategy seems to be don't let anybody dig in on the field or the streets. cable cars and historic streetcars, so expensive to repair will be on the sidelines tomorrow. muni replacing them with buses that can make a quick escape with mobbed by crowds. >> we're hoping for the best, but preparing for the wor

, and sits on the suez canal and the means for a variety of american security interests in the persian gulf and beyond. and that's where the calculations are radially different. we want everybody to live in democracy, and i agree with david rhode. it may be security for the united states, but egypt is not a success for many egyptians. the deterioration of the economy and the political system. post-mubarak suks that though we have invested in egypt, we have not invested in durable things to help the country become ultimately a more democratic and open society. again, we have not been able to resolve that dilemma between short-term interests and longer term, and until we do, we'll default on security. >> as i'm hearing you rattle off all of the leverage that egypt has, and we were talking about how the $1.6 billion is a drop in the bucket to them, why are they allied with us? they have all of the cards. >> they don't have all of the cards. they certainly the american weaponry and to be aligned -- there's something about being aligned with the world's super power. and they benefit strategicall

. >> sreenivasan: later, the persian gulf oil city of dubai boasted the night's biggest fireworks display. organizers said it set a world record. the show used half a million shells and lasted six full minutes, centered on the world's tallest tower and synchronized by 100 computers. officials of the guinness world record book witnessed the event. in russia, president vladimir putin vowed today that those behind the bombings in volgograd will face "complete annihilation." the attacks sunday and monday killed at least 34 people. security was ramped up today across the city once known as stalingrad. police detained dozens of suspects, but it was unclear if any of them were tied to the bombings. the attacks raised security concerns about the winter olympics, set for february in sochi, some 400 miles away. the government of south sudan and rebels have agreed to attend peace talks in ethiopia, in an effort to end the fighting between ethnic factions. but hours before the announcement, the rebels took control of nearly all of the city of bor, in jonglei state. at least 1,000 people have been kil

an empire whose soldiers stood guard from the windy hills of hadrian's wall in scotland to the persian gulfand whose merchants traveled as far afield as india and china-- the culmination and the unifying of the old cultures of the mediterranean world and western europe. from that day to this, rome would be the greatest single influence on the western cultural tradition. indeed, it could be said that rome is that tradition. it's not merely that rome gave the west the latin language, roman law, roman ideas on state craft and on society. it was rome which passed on to the west the artistic, philosophical, and spiritual legacy of ancient greece, which rome had conquered, looted, and then learned from. it was rome which would be the agency of transmission to the west of an obscure, near-eastern religious cult which became the dynamic, motive force in western society and spiritual life-- christianity. but rome also gave the west a practical legacy, a legacy which western people see every day of their lives, from washington square to trafalgar square. and that legacy lies in the realm of architect

inside one of their nuclear plants bailout and nhk crew to film into a shared facility on the persian gulf. it's the first time the four news team has done that since the crowd started operating two years ago. sharia is the only commercial nuclear plant in the middle east iran's atomic energy organization allow the crew to document what was happening inside the pictures show the control room at the center that this outing the ec that produces electricity for homes throughout the film the russian and sydney is helping run the plants in the media's plan to build twenty more reactors they say they're using their ukrainian and spin and dance to his fields with the new units but experts say the readings cannot produce enough uranium on their own and need to input sound from russia again this week the rains started stealing back to you the activities that following through on an interim agreement reached in november. the six major powers. she's got to sit down for another round of times makes my heart to be just fine no agreements by the hands of the year international delegates a gathering in t

not because i'm against the persian gulf, but why not have domestic jobs as opposed to foreign jobs?> there are questions about the amount of jobs that will be created, but the other argument is this is oil that will not be used in the u.s.. it will be refined in the gulf and exported overseas. the u.s. is still significant net importer of oil. i will say one other thing. to show how distorted the conversation is, i have seen some people say, if we disapprove this, this is an attack on canada. you have seen that too. i think if the science says no significant impact on climate change and it conforms with existing rules on safety, it ought to be permitted. cannot event canada get crude oil and natural gas from alberta to british columbia. mayor, i respect property rights, and nobody wants something that will burst. are staying with us. our thanks to phil mattingly. coming up next, do cities need tax incentives for businesses and jobs? ♪ president obama .et with a big group of ceo's there are nearly 4 million americans who have not found a job for at least six months and longer. here w

resolutions in the for the united states in persian gulf. >> why are we back in this position? 2004 was the bloodiest battle for our troops. how did this unravel? >> fundamentally it's a failure of the iraqi political progress. in 2006, 2007 and 2008 there was basically a bargain between the political forces and others which got them to turn against foreign fighters and others who had come into their territory to fight against the iraqi government, against the u.s. forces. that deal was between the political organizations and the coalition, not between them and the iraqi government. in fact, one of the untold stories of that time and of the surge was the role that u.s. forces played in intermediating and stopping the conflict between the iraqi army and local militias. you have to situation in 2006, 2006 and 2008. as the war wound down, what didn't happen was a political settlement or deal that was sustainable between the sunni population. so you had... >> once the u.s. pulls out and then the shia government led by nouri al-maliki today, it had not really brought the sunnis into

navy's fifth fleet just across the persian gulf in the straight of hormuz, that choke point that is talked about for so long, such a source of contention of oil route between iran and iraq and saudi arabia. the idea is to go back through the suez canal out into the mediterranean. advance it one time. that is not really new. several months ago iran parked warships off the coast of syria. now it wants to take the ships out through the mediterranean into the atlantic ocean. mr. ambassador, why are they doing this now? they must feel really good with all this attention? >> well, they certainly do and they have reason to feel good as the november agreement from geneva on the iranian nuclear program takes effect that agreement represents a significant victory for iran. they made temporary, easily-reversible concessions on their nuclear program. they have broken through the western regime of international sanctions and sending of these two warships is a political signal to the united states, to the other countries in the region, that iran feels good and is trying to project power. i think this is

in -- alpha dog in the middle east, they will call the shots, whether relations with syrian or persian gulf region, they will become dominant economic military and m.i.t.alower in mittal power in the region. lou: that is what disturbs most of us, my -- my guess why would israel tolerate this, because, it seems to make no sense for their security interests. >> well, past a certain point, israel will not tolerate it t israel has been abandoned by the obama administration. and all of topics you raised in the intro, the common thread is iran, with karzai surrounded b pro-iranian advisors, and syria and sanctions, tehran has done what they set out to do. they are dividing the west, got the u.n., u.s., europe, all disagreeing, they split the syrian opposition away from agreeing with -- and it is a mess. but tehran is brilliant, as far as remark in new yorker that obama made about al qaeda junr varsity, the jv team is the white house. lou: this analogue that he create, about junior varsity and kobe bryant. it is so to me, absolely inoffible to describe what a condone sending patronizing simplistic

. >> the racing season begins in two weeks in qatar on the persian gulf.they won 60 races and the world championship breaking into smaller teams. they need a plan b. >> you need a back up after. i'll use my background in biology and physiology and do something in sports medicine.. >> i hope that a young girl sees me compete and thinks wow, she can do that, i can do. that i can get on my bike and go ride to school. you know? i can go sign up for this soccer game or i can try something that maybe i was nervous to do just by use sooeing us on bicycles. >> stay with us. there is more still to come in our continuing breaking coverage. we have surprising new details after the fatal shooting of a bart police officer. >>> new details about the terror threats about the sochi games. >> a wanted man thought he was taunting police on facebook but ended up helping them catch him. >> oysters are a shell of their former selves what. a >>> an important update on the bart police officer shot and killed in the line of duty this afternoon was accidentally shot by a fellow of

going to call the shots, whether it's with iran, relations with syria, whether it's the entire persian gulf >> the military power of that equation, ralph, is what disturbs most of us, i suppose. my guess is why would israel tolerate this? it seems to make no sense at all for their security interests. >> past a certain point, israel will not tolerate it. but israel has been abandoned by the president obama administration. all the talks raised in the intro, the common thread is iran. you've got karzai surrounded by pro iranian advisers. in syria as well as sanctions, tehran has managed to do exactly what they set out to do. they are dividing the west. they got the u.n., u.s., europe all disagreeing. they split the syrian opposition away from agreeing with the u.n. it's an absolute mess. but tehran is brilliant. as far as the remark in the new yorker obama made about al qaeda being the junior varty. the junior varsity team is the white house and they're not playing for the seahawks. >> this analogue, this met for about junior varsity and kobe bryant, it's so, to me, absolutely inefable to desc

predators in the persian gulf all the time. there have been a series of iranian attempted shootdowns of predator drones. they don't do this against manned aircraft. drones are seen as an acceptable way to poke at the united states. so drones have the capabilities to destabilize in ways that other weapons platforms don't. >> and one final question before we open it up. cyber warfare, there are a lot of sort of analogs in a sense to the drone question, right, because it's sort of, it's relatively easy to do, it's potentially, you know, it lowers the cost of attacking. to what extempt, i mean, is -- extent, is there a geneva convention on cyber warfare we need to think about as well? >> there's one place that the u.s., what are the rules of the road for acceptable cyber operations. and what is the distinction between, essentially, preparing the battlefield which is going into another country's information systems to attract, to extract information and what is actually kinetic-like effects and destroying their computer systems -- >

of the palestinian people's rights, tackling the humanitarian crisis in syria, security of the persian gulf, as well as the fight against terrorism and extremism. i believe that peace and security in the middle east is dependent on the expansion of economic relations, social and cultural cooperation, tourism, value in the private sector, and cooperation of elites at the international level. the crises at the start of the 21st century show that economic factors alone are not enough to provide a better life for people. in addition to economic well-being, people need culture, spirituality and ethics. economics without ethical boundaries will lead to the destruction of a healthy environment for humans, and instead of increasing satisfaction will lead to a race towards greedy consumerism and the destruction of intergenerational resources. common human ethics can be the basis for a common trend among human societies, bind them together, improve order, security and tranquility and make life more enjoyable. distinguished participants, as head of my country's government, i am fully aware of how impo

areas in the region, including rocket attacks on israel, attacking japanese oil tankers in the persian gulfd other targets here in lebanon as the bombing of the iranian embassy in november. so he is a very significant catch, if we may use the phrase, and lebanese investigators are very eager to interrogate him to get as much information as possible. not only the group, but who finances this group and they want to know as much as possible on how they can operate here in lebanon. also another issue is that iranians are very interested to take part in that investigation. we heard iranian officials discussing the possible of sending a iranian team here to take part in that investigation, but the saudis have been very reluctant in approving that. so it is become another issue of contention. >> and of course with such struggle you might say between iran and saudi arabia wanting to speak to this man, you have lebanon in a state of flux, with no government as such to be able to take control and tell these countries, basically, this is our investigation. we will handle it. >> yes, that's true. leban

than 300 armored vehicles from around the globe starting with world war i going right up to the persian gulfe captured by the enemy and used against the country that built it. this one a german panther underwent a meticulous restoration after spending nearly five decades at the bottom of a polish river. now, many of these tanks are one-of-a-kind. all of them have been impossible to see without an appointment but that's about to change. on a private ranch an hour south of san francisco, these wartime relics have rarely been seen by the general public and might have been lost forever if not nor engineer and philanthropist jacque little fooel. >> he observed at the end of the cold war a unique time in history to preserve some of these. typically they are destroyed, melted down, turned into other armament. >> this summer about 80 of these tanks will be on the move again to a permanent home at the aviation museum outside boston. they won't just be on display, they will re-enact battles and engage a new generation of americans. >> so much more impressive to see as we've been doing today the vehicl

if they're true it shows government by threat, by extortion and government by bully persian gulf. >>just received a statement from governor christie in response. "governor christie and his entire administration have been helping hoboken get the help they need after sandy, with the city already having been approved for nearly $70 million in federal aid. it's very clear partisan politics are at play here as democratic mayors with a political ax to grind come out. congre . >> i'm not surprised. what's been the reaction of folks in florida? you just did a press conference. i'm curious to know what the response has been. >> let's take a look at the incongruity of the statement that was just released by christie's office. on the one hand he's calling mayor zimmer an ally and someone who was a supporter and at the same time suggesting that she's doing this as a result of partisan politics. it's hard for this to be both. this is evidence that chris christie is the worst kind of b bully. he's willing to use intimidation tactics and retribution and as soon as there's some pushback, he runs cry

of the palestinian people's rights, tackling the trinitarian crisis in syria, security of the persian gulf, as well as the fight against terrorism and extremism. >> the interim deal to slow iran's nuclear program in return for sanctions relief took effect earlier this week. india's supreme court has ordered a probe after the gang rape of a woman in eastern west state. 13 suspects have been accused of gang raping the victim on the orders of village elders as punishment for her having relationship with a man outside their tribe. a doctor treating the victim says she is in stable condition. stable.s >> when will she be discharged? in ontors are looking her. >> last month marked the first anniversary of the death of an indian woman was gang raped on a new daily bus. that case ignited india drew attention to sexual violence around the world. a new study says a new study says the number of civilian casualties from u.s. reward pakistan saw major decline in 2013. the bureau of investigative journalism says as many as four but possibly no civilians were killed by cia drones last year. as many as 63

i think we need to work harder at communicating with and bringing our allies in the persian gulf andrdan and elsewhere, bringing them in close so that they have a better sense of what we are thinking, what we are planning, where we are headed, where we can work together and so on. i think we can do all of those things. i think the administration -- i saw that secretary hegel was out in the region. so i think they are -- obviously, secretary kerry's engagement in the palestinian issue is important. but in gauging war with their friends about what we can do with respect to syria more aggressively and these other conflicts i describe i think is important. >> what is your take on the agreement that is in the paper today, the whole notion of nuclear accord with iran. that is the lead story in both "the washington post" and "the new york times." what is your take on that accord? did we get something out of this? >> i believe that the united states had no choice but to say yes to a negotiation. i think in some ways this can be seen as iran coming to the table iran coming to the table can be

five years ago, billionaire jack littlefield had collected vehicl vehicles world wan one to the persian gulfinst the country who built it. the german pan therunder went restoration after being in the bottom of the polish river. many of the tanks are one of a kind and impossible to see without an appointment and that is about to change. >> on a private ranch outside of san francisco. these relics have not been seen and lost forever if not for jack littlefield. >> he observed in the end of the cold war, it was a unique time in history to preserve these. they are turned in to other armament. >> this summer, 80 of the tanks will be on the move to a foundation aviation museum outside of boston and they will not just be on display, they will reenact battles and engage a new generation of americans. >> it is so much more to see than vehicle in motion to feel the earth shake underneath your feet than to just see it sit nothing a museum. >> the rest of the rolling armor. 130 tanks will be auctioned off. expect to pay 10,000 to more than a million dollars for one of these incredible pieces of military

he had been working on his dissertation on the persian gulf region.he frigid air is coming late tomorrow. until then we've got to contend with the rain coming down. be careful because even though that rain is making the snow disappear it is freezing on contact in many years. you can see the turms right at the freezing point and well below out there in ashburn. that's going to be the story even though the temperatures are projected to get around 40 degrees. the pink color indicating the freezing rain you can see that closer in on our radar the heaviest showers along the i-95 corridor for most east of the city it is all rain. but here you can see until 11:00 this afternoon. so temperatures around 40 then the cold air coming our way late tomorrow night single digits. >> thanks for watching. hope you have a great morning.

around the persian gulf up to the canal. there are pro-american sunnies who will be caught in the cross fire. as devastating as is it for those who are there to see those islamist flags flying over fallugah it's deadly for americans left in lurch. >> on a personal note, you talk to veterans who fought in wars there. what are they saying to you? the fact that the flags are flying? it's got to be heart-breaking. >> uma, a lot of them liken it to what happened in the war i was first in as a young 25-year-old lieutenant. they know the young americans serving as soldiers, sailors, airman, guardsman today. we won every battle on the ground in vietnam. they won every battle on the ground in iraq. and they are doing the same in afghanistan. the war was lost in washington. the war i covered. for fox news. in iraq. is lost in washington. in that building and down at 1600 pennsylvania aver. most americans are focused on what is happening here. we'll see the "state of the union" address on the 28th that will be almost silent on the issu

immense quantities of cheap energy combined with the fact that at least until quite recently, in the persian gulf region contained the largest oil reserves. we never would've cared much about what goes on in that part of the world. but that, i would argue that the ambitions and the rationale membership in this nation or why they reached the conclusion that invading iraq was necessary, go far beyond simply wanted to get the oil. in some sense -- in some sense, i thought they did was want to get the oil, that actually might make them seem somewhat more reasonable. but what they really thought was to undertake a project of transforming the islamic world that was going to put the united states in a position to somehow direct the course of events in this massive swath of territory. they had so much confidence and their own wisdom and in the capacity of american military power that they seriously believed they could rearrange the lives of about 1.4 billion people to suit us and our way of life. my favorite quote of the entire post-9/11. , i'll make it partially correct are mostly correct, but you can l

. >> saudi aramco is a massive complex along the persian gulf, hundreds of miles east of the mega projectsople work here at the company's compound, which is like a little country with its own security force, schools, hospitals, even its own airline. abdallah jum'ah is president and ceo of saudi aramco. so this is your headquarters. >> this is our headquarters. >> and how big is aramco? >> saudi aramco is the world's largest oil-producing company. >> and in 2008, it was the richest company in the world, worth some $781 billion. >> this is the heart of our operation. this is the nerve center. >> it keeps going. look at this. this is gigantic. he gave us a tour of the company's command center where engineers scrutinize and analyze every aspect of the company's operations on a 220-foot digital screen. >> every facility in the kingdom, every drop of oil that comes from the ground is monitored in real time... >> in this room? >> in this room. and we have control of each and every facility, each and every pipeline, each and every valve on the pipeline, and therefore, we know exactly what is happe

so around more and more so by john's groups funded by certain countries in the persian gulf session so due to open one present to you on feels nice to end its isolation. that's why it has caused me to do with russia they have seen in the olympics when he meets his abundant as islamic terrorism in the caucasus and russian steel. iran may have one point or another be on the russian side in trying to contain. fascism is rising auto costly. yup all your thoughts. i'm sorry i didn't shake my head when our time was speaking i don't really buy the argument that the rains are concerned about jihadists and the areas i rather take julian barnes point that the iranians have a geopolitical strategy and the strategy comes on top in a sectarian basis that it is not sectarian in nature of all the readings really are concerned about in iraq is maintaining that powell one of the reasons why the has been able to have so much hold the ground in fallujah and other places in iraq. bb calls of walking or maliki the iraqi prime minister has done is done with the blessing of the radiant this is not a question

then having this extraordinary advantage in military weaponry that was demonstrated in the first persian gulf war ninety ninety one they felt they could just change the whole playing field in the middle east by by getting rid of saddam showing what the what american military power can do and thus making a whole new game there and i think they vastly overestimated their abilities but i think that was sort of their goal they thought they could use the new military power the lack of any counterweight after the collapse of the soviet union and make that a way to just change the whole game. but. to what end i mean it's good to get the oil basically well that was part of it i think it was also to change the relationship between israel and the arab world the if you go back even to one thousand nine hundred six when some of the neo cons were helping benjamin netanyahu get elected prime minister in israel they were laying out this idea of frustration with with the ration with negotiations and instead going for regime change and they at that point targeted saddam hussein's regime and suggested that the

immense quantities of cheap energy, combined with the fact that at least until quite recently the persian gulf region contained the largest oil reserves, we never would've cared much about what goes on in that part of the world. that said, i would argue that the ambitions and the rationale within the bush administration for why they reached the conclusion that invading iraq was necessary go far beyond simply wanting to get the oil. and in some sense, in some senses it all the did was to want to get the oil, it might make them seem somewhat more reasonable. but what they really saw was to undertake a project of transforming the islamic world that was going to put the united states in a position to semi-direct the course of events in this massive swath of territory. they had so much confidence in their own military power that they seriously believed they could rearrange the lives of about 1.4 billion people to suit us and our way of life. my favorite quote of the entire post-9/11 period, i'll only get it partially correct, mostly correct, you can look it up, look up don rumsfeld's press conferen

there are predators in the persian gulf. there've been a series of iranians attempts to shoot down predator drone's. they do not do this against manned aircraft. they do not do this against manned u.s. aircraft. drones have capabilities to destabilize in ways that manned weapons do not. i think final question before we open it up. -- cyber warfare, there are a lot of analogues. it is easy to do, it is potentially -- it lowers the cost of attacking. is there a geneva convention on cyber warfare that we need to think about touching mark -- think about? have had dialogues in various countries. what are the except will rules for cyber. we are preparing the batter filled by going into another country's in her missions to them -- information systems and extracting information. we are destroying their computer systems. >> was an active warfare? or was it sabotage? >> i think it is worth being very skeptical of the idea that anybody would follow precisely airpower, even in the form of unmanned aerial vehicles, cyber operations are d

predators in the persian gulf are they both try to, there's electronic warfare against predators and the nuclear gulf all the time. there's in a series of attempt to shoot downs of predator drones. they don't do this against manned aircraft. drums are seen as an acceptable way to poke at the united states but they don't do it against manned u.s. aircraft. they have the ability to destabilize a weapons platform. >> one final question before we ended up. cyberwarfare there are a lot of analogues with the john question because it's relatively easy to do. it's potentially, it lowers the cost of attacking. to what extent is there a geneva conventional on cyberwarfare that we could think about as well? >> it there's one place the u.s. and they're trying to do these dialogs in those countries on the rules of award for acceptable cyberback operations. it essentially preparing the battlefield which is going into other countries information systems to extract information and what is actual kind of like effects and destroying their computer systems. >> was it an active offensive warfare warfare

. >> president bush in today's throwback thursday takes us back to 1991 and the persian gulf war. 23storm was announced. and the u.s. general norman formed a fight of several counties. 40 days after the operation, seize fire started and live news was broadcasted for the first time from the front line. >> storming norman. we look back. >>> how about this? there is new talk after a hollywood film producer and a hugely successful one and top obama donor reveals he plans to target the nra in a new movie that is aimed to destroy the gun industry. he said i am going to make a movie and we will take this head on and they will wish they were not alive after i am done with them. former president of the women's media center and mike slater is here who is a talk radio host. interesting. these comments are interesting. some i say are a little stranger as we go through. what do you make of the guy who made kill bill carrying the torch for anti-nra? >> hollywood producers are strange people. the nra lobbiest use people who want to get away with selling guns to criminals >> mike, what is your respo