. >> i think that i wanted to mention that ramsey hanna has been to the hearing on the 16th and he is waiting to find out what the determination will be because he has inherited a permit that has no entertainment and you guys do need to make a motion to continue it. >> okay. thank you. >> i move to continue that item. >> i will second. >> on the let's take this to a vote. >> all right, on the motion to continue, commissioner akers >> aye. >> hyde. >> aye. >> jaef. >> aye. >> lee. >> aye. >> campagnoli. >> aye. >> tan. >> aye. >> so moved. >> and all right that took longer than i thought that it would, let's move on to item seven and so item seven is discussion and possible action on charter section 10 b of the san francisco administrative code around fees, for special events, and so we have had item and a presentation from the police department, and at our last meeting and i believe that we did not have a chance to sort of take any formal action, if we wanted to, and on it or a lengthy discussion, othis is just a opportunity for the commissioners to talk it out more and if there is a