> and joining me now is sam nunn, the head of the nuclear threat initiative.congratulations, you have achieved a great deal just in the last two years. seven fewer countries have nuclear material. but one that still does is obviously north korea. we've seen this crazy trip to north korea by dennis rodman. you have a dictator there whom no one seems to understand who executed his uncle, the power behind the throne. we have a very unstable world. >> there's no doubt about that. both iran and north korea are serious problems and the world has to cooperate to deal with those problems. of course, iran doesn't have the weapons yet as far as we know and north korea does. they are in different categories but both extremely dangerous. the good news the index we put together is a score card on nuclear material security. we know a couple of things that are very important. terrorists would like to get weapons nuclear material and have the know how available to build a weapon. we know if they get the material and build a crude weapon, they'll use it. we know that the harde

concerned are people like phil cullen and bill bradley, jack danforth, john warner, david warren, sam nunn, nancy castle bomb, republicans and democrats in the list goes on and maybe the last one to leave because of frustration was olympia snowe. so you have this large number of people, most of whom could have been reelected forever who left in disgust because they couldn't get anything done. i think that is the new phenomenon over the last couple of decades that is especially worrying. now the other theme though in this book and i think this is an important point to make, despite my frustrations and even my anger at the congress, the reality is i got a lot of things done with the congress. most of my predecessors, it you are lucky, could get two or three or four big military procurement programs canceled that were over cost, overdue are no longer relevant. i cut nearly three dozen and ended up getting congressional approval or acquiescence in all of them. i cut almost 200 lien dollars out of the pentagon's overhead, and even eliminated a combatant command. i got the congress to support me

landslide loss, a bunch of governors and senators and congressman including the clinton and al gore and sam nunn and chuck rap formed the democratic leadership council and i formed it with them. that became the vehicle for changing the democratic party and ending what was a pretty long losing streak for presidential elections. >> host: what you mean when you say the new demo rats? >> guest: well the new democrat, sort of the tagline for the political movement that we started. if you recall in the 1980s the democrats suffered the three worst defeats in electoral college votes in the history of american politics. no party had ever lost a high percentage of electoral votes in three consecutive elections than the democrats had since the beginning of parties in 1828. and essentially the great new deal coalition that sort of split asunder and we were losing overwhelmingly. so our reform movement was called the new democrats. but we tried to do was reconnect the democratic party with its first principles, and opportunity for all. equal opportunity for all special privilege for none. americorps and on t

we're better off than we were three decades ago, and we could easily say of al what ed killgore got sam nunn to say about bill clinton back in 1990. he was a rising star in at least three decades. [laughter] and the democratic party has seen a parade of rising stars because of al's work and on al's. watch. and it's now my privilege to introduce one of the most impressive of those rising star, governor jack markell. for the last three years as joe biden's chief of staff, i've been privileged to be an honorary citizen of the great state of delaware. and like my woz, i burst with pride every time the first state does something amazing from the basketball team's great run to this month's grand opening just down the street of capriati's, the best sub shot in america. [laughter] but for the past five years, delaware has been blessed with one of the smartest, most innovative governors in the country. jack's made tremendous progress with delaware's schools, its finances, its economy. he just finished an incredibly successful run as chair of the national governors' association. he's the kind of leade

david boshen, sam nunn. republicans and democrats, and maybe the last one to leave because of frustration was olympia snow. so you have this large number of people, most of whom could have been re-elected forever, who left in disgust because they couldn't get anything done, and i think that's the new phenomenon over the last couple of decades that is especially worrying. now, the other theme in this book -- i think this is an important point to make -- despite my frustrations and even my anger at the congress, reality is i got a lot of things done with the congress. most of my predecessors, if they were lucky, could get two or three or four big military procurement programs cancelled that were overcost, overdue, or no longer relevant. i cut nearly three dozen, and ended up getting congressional approval or acquiescence in all of them. i cut almost $200 billion out of the pentagon overhead, and even eliminated a combatant command, and i got the congress to support me on that. partly because i had enormously s

it harkens to the line that sam nunn used to use from time to time, that everyone who says they want shoulder and be sure that there is someone behind the leader as he marches down the road. absent any one behind you, he said you are just out for a walk and not really eating at all. we will have an opportunity tonight to chat about some things i hope are on your mind. i am particularly delighted to be here with ben, who is so good to come join us here. no one is busier than the president of news organizations. ben is a young guy, the dean of music executives, telling you what a pair of us and brilliant producer he is. he has made abc news a better place. he and i have become good friends and i am delighted he is with us tonight. you will have the opportunity to hear his point of view about abc news, an important institution that matters in this country and in this world. the same way that hank does important work in winston-salem, the same as our stations in sacramento, albuquerque, it matters to the local community. people care about their towns, the issues that occur there. it is i

it harkens to the line that sam nunn used to use from time to time that everyone who says they want toa leader ought to look over their shoulder and be sure that there is someone behind the leader as he marches down the road. absent anybody behind you he said you are just out for a walk if you're not leading in all. it may be nice out for the walk but that is not what it is all about. we are going to have an opportunity tonight to chat about some things that i hope are on your mind. we will take some questions. i am delighted to be here with ben. it was good of him to come join us here. no one is busier than the president of news organizations. ben is a young guy. he is the dean of the network news executives which tells you what a peerless job field he is in. he is a brilliant guy who has been a brilliant producer and he is about innovation in the work that he does. he has made abc news a better place and has offered a better product for the affiliates. we have become good friends and i am glad he is with us tonight. you will have an opportunity to hear his point of view about abc new

it harkens to the line that sam nunn used to use from time to time, that everyone who says they want to be a leader should look over their shoulder and be sure that there is someone behind the leader as he marches down the road. absent any one behind you, he said you are just out for a walk and not really eating at all. we will have an opportunity tonight to chat about some things i hope are on your mind. i am particularly delighted to be here with ben, who is so good to come join us here. no one is busier than the president of news organizations. ben is a young guy, the dean of music executives, telling you what a pair of us and brilliant producer he is. he has made abc news a better place. he and i have become good friends and i am delighted he is with us tonight. you will have the opportunity to hear his point of view about abc news, an important institution that matters in this country and in this world. the same way that hank does important work in winston-salem, the same as our stations in sacramento, albuquerque, it matters to the local community. people care about their towns

her father, sam nunn, was a renowned democrat in georgia, who still has a big reputation there.time, she is really stressing her own career, that she's sort of built up. and that she has never served in political office before. she ran this nonprofit organization that became one of the largest volunteer service organizations, in part because she partnered with george a.w. bush and his family. so she's trying to bring that sort of bipartisan credibility in there. so i think, you know, as you mentioned earlier, it's so interesting to see how women are coming up in so many different sectors, not just in public service and in government, but in private industry. and more of those candidates, i suspect, are going to be coming over into public life, as they rise in tech and these different areas, and they're going to draw on that background and expertise to show that they can really lead. >> we have an actual woman of 2014 sitting at table. so when we come back, i'm going to talk with nina turner about running as a woman. ] ring. rin. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chi