so i have kenny with me and scott broder, kenny is the project manager and scott is in charge of the maintenance, if you have any more questions. >> i had a question, so there are 28 escalators at 7 stations that the mta is responsible for, and does this include the 16th street and 24th street bart stations for example, or glen park? >> no, those are included as part of bart, bater is responsible for the maipt nens of those. >> and when was the last time, so these are 40 years old, it looks like 41 years old, when was the last time that bart replaced some of the other eastern neighbor stations. >> right, it is something that i could check with bart with and get back to you on. >> okay. now, maybe, the bart rep who is here might have answers. >> thank you, and commissioner yee? >> so, in the... i guess that i am trying to figure out in regards to this phase two escalator rehabilitation, it looks like it is going to modernize or replace 17 escalators? >> correct. >> and so there is eleven others, what is going to happen to the eleven others? so five were completed as part of phase one

these escalator and so our maintenance is higher than the recommended maintenance level and then scott broder here in the transit division, manages all of those contracts. for the maintenance of the escalators. >> i mean that i understand that, but maybe, i am off point here, but, to my mind, there is a difference between a maintenance contract and a maintenance plan. i mean, the maintenance contract with this, the cone may be a part of the maintenance plan, but i don't necessarily think that the maintenance plan, it is necessarily, you know, limited to just, you know, a maintenance contract. and so that... for instance, a question that i have is, what is there a document that outlines what it is, that internal and mp a staff, and the bart staff is supposed to do visa vie, the contractor. >> and so commissioner to answer your question to the best of my ability. the maintenance plan, so if we purchase any piece of equipment or renew anything that we have have it be a traffic signal or a escalator or a rail the actual manufacturer sets out what the maintenance plan is, you should replace this p

so, that, and i don't have a question it is more of a comment >> so scott broder actually manages the maintenance contract and he gave me a quick benefit cost analysis because he did look at it quickly and so i am going to let him just briefly respond to a couple of the questions. >> good morning. and so we have kept this for years, and i have been over seing the maintenance for 30 years here and while covering a piece of machinery from the outside elements is always beneficial and it is going to make the equipment last long and her hold up better, and when there are properly built they will last 25 years and that somebody was interesting about what the life cycle is, and it is the life cycle for 25 years and we will return about 7 days a week and it is much more nan a department store or someplace else. washington, d.c., about five years ago started to put in the barricades that build them out of stainless steel and visited with the people and looked at their canopy and they are well built and stainless steel and no main nens and no paint or corrosion problems, they spent over a mill