and she has synesthesia. also with us, of course, kay koplovitz.you met anybody that has ever had synesthesia? >> no, but i understand what they do. this is an opportunity for me. >> tell us about synesthesia. how did you know you had it? >> is a condition where you can use one sent to comprehend or understand another. i understood i had it in preschool when i was training my nose. i had a mentor that would paint perfumes for his clients. i understood the perfumes from the pain. >> tell us about that. >> when i smell an odor, i involuntarily and automatically see color and texture. if you tell me you want a sense that smells blue and has the texture of velvet, that i can create that for you, and not just for you, but anyone that smells it. >> this is fascinating. did you know these kinds of skills existed? >> i knew they existed, but i did not know that companies were now trying to take advantage of people who have it. it is not just sent. in our article, we talked to an engineer at ford who basically in his mind can visualize -- he will touch some