, john sununu and david plouffe.ks like immigration will die in congress. will it be an issue in 2016? >> presidential elections are national elections. i don't think is that likely to be an issue in 2014. we have made a bill and made a calculation that they think they need to focus on obamacare, the economy, other issues that will drive the outcome in november. >> do you agree, david? >> they made the decision to play four corners. the notion that immigration will get done when all of the energy will be in the republican primary base as rand paul and marco rubio are running around new hampshire and south carolina is unlikely. if immigration reform is not passed before 2016 may be fatally damaged. >> it will be an issue in certain states and districts but the big impact will be in 2016. >> what about the affordable care act? >> if that's the only thing they run on, the american people are getting tired of the debate. if democrats run smartly, we are able to do some of that against mitt romney and they can not just su

johnson and her and david plouffe debating obamacare and the nextj elections. sununu.nun john we begin with new hampshire governor maggie hassan. let's start with health care. every state is affected by that. you are going to have the medicaid expansion and saudi were going to sign the bill. how's it going now? ." thee were all frustrated by rollout of the website and it was not acceptable. in the meantime, we have been working to make sure we could expand health care coverage through medicaid but then very quickly launch private insurance, something important for a bipartisan coalition in our state. we been looking forward to having that new health-care expansion and a new hampshire-specific model. the enrollment on the exchange, a federal partnership exchange, because they prohibited the state from setting up its own in the last legislature, the enrollment is going well and is going to meet or exceed projections. >> do you think obamacare will remain controversial or change as it takes effect? the rollout was unacceptable. what's important as we improve and g

david plouffe. you have not seen it, have you? >> we will start season to this weekend. >> i am honored to ask this question. what does the silliness look like to you? do you lean forward, riveted? >> when i first started watching i was skeptical. i think people enjoy it. washington does not act that way. >> you mean it is not that nasty? >> people don't kill each other? >> full disclosure, i am not up to speed on this. is claire underwood in washington? >> i do not think so. i do not think frank underwood is in washington. there were elements. but that whole character, no. >> back to the gop. what is the gop going to look like over the next six months? >> their plan for corners. cornersare playing for -- four corners. they are trying to run the clock out. senator mccain, who knows better than others, said you are not going to get immigration reform done in 2015. we could be looking at years before immigration reform is done, sadly. -- as anshrunk down administrator in washington -- thister the selection -- election, you will see

john sununu and david plouffe debating obamacare and the next elections. we begin with new hampshire governor maggie hassan. let's start with health care. every state is affected by that. you are going to have the medicaid expansion and said you were going to sign the bill.

. >> david plouffe with us come a you had peter in the oval office, opt in.ot even aware, you automatically in the plan and you opt out if you choose, why can't we get that done? >> the politics are complex. in terms of savings issues and the reform generally. if you look at any issues touching medicare or social ull terribly.y p people are hungry for problem solving, if congress did something big here to help savings and help provide stability, even though the parts might not be popular, it would sell politically. >> i am a younger worker. toy, what are the benefits people living longer? they work longer, you have more families that can pass on their wealth? is there something positive? theou cannot underestimate fact that there are now several decades more of lies that people have, they live rich lives and are engaged with people, their friends and family much longer. as an economic force, the intellectual capital that older workers represent, the u.s. is uniquely able to capitalize on that, our companies are flexible. that is a competitive advantage for th

john sununu and david plouffe debating obamacare and the next elections.w hampshire governor maggie hassan. let's start with health care. every state is affected by that. you are going to have the medicaid expansion and said you were going to sign the bill.

obama's former campaign manager david plouffe tweeted "two brothers are attempting to purchase the u.s. senate. voters and candidates just mere chess pieces in this game of self-interest." and this is the number that everyone is freaking out about. according to the "washington post," as of this week, americans for prosperity, a group largely funded by the koch brothers has spent more than $27 million on ads since august. nine months away from election day. and $27 million may not seem like a huge number to you, but here's a little comparison. so far, the democratic senate majority pac has spent just $2.75 million on ads responding to afp. 1/10 of what afp has spent. in 2010, afp spent nearly $40 million total on the midterms. so far, they have already spent $27 million with 3 quarters of a year to go. their goal is very simple. to turn the senate red. >> kay hagan, she just doesn't get it. >> how senator landrieu, we deserve better than obamacare. >> call congressman peters and tell him obamacare isn't working. it's hurting michigan families. >> obamacare doesn't work. it just doesn't

i think most people think that david plouffe, when he was the senior adviser to barack obama in 2012,ss and he was also deeply involved in the reelection effort. when chris matthews worked in the carter white house -- >> as a speech writer. i was writing campaign speeches. >> you were writing campaign speeches. >> but we were going through a very elaborate thing. listen to. this to obey the law then, we made a point of take off a day a week, a certain amount of hours of working for government as presidential speech writers, certain amount as working as writers for candidate carter. so we were very deliberate about observing the law. >> and of course president carter was not making fundraising phone calls from the oval office there are obviously bright lines over which you step you're in real serious trouble. it doesn't at this moment look like governor walker has done that. if that's the case, where we are right now, i think this is something that if he handles it well, we can get around it. >> john, you've been covering this. you know the guy well over all these years. give us a cali

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johnson and her and david plouffe debating obamacare and the nextj elections.u.nun john we begin with new hampshire governor maggie hassan. let's start with health care. every state is affected by that. you are going to have the medicaid expansion and saudi were going to sign the bi.

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. >> you know, former white house senior adviser david plouffe said this this morning.do over nothing about this report. let's listen to that. >> first of all, i highly doubt the first week of november 2014 voter who is are undecided in a senate or house race citing the cbo report. we blow these things up in washington. >> the report is making the way into political ads. this is one against north carolina democratic senator kay hagen. how long do you see this resonating? >> i think it will stick around with us. i think it sticks for the 2014 election potentially. we're not going to see the big effect. we are not seeing, you know, everyone you know in your neighborhood leaving the workforce. we are talking about a relatively small percentage of people work deciding they would rather not have a job and have access to health insurance. it is more of a political story than economic story of people exiting the workforce. >> a few could have imagined when the law was signed amid much jubilation at the white house in 2010 that nearly four years later obama would be fighting to

congressman tom cole, minnesota democratic congressman keith ellison, former white house senior adviser, david plouffeand the co-host of cnn's crossfire, s.e. cupp. congressman cole, what happened? less than two weeks ago speaker boehner's releasing a statement of principles, talking optimistic about immigration reform. and now what? what happened? >> i think actually people overread both of those incidents. we have begun a dialogue and conversation inside the republican conference on this. i think that's good. step by step progress is still out there. whether or not democrats want to work that way is unclear. but you could get a border security bill through, hb 1 visas through, seasonal labor. i think there's still a path there. but it's political reality. there's a lot of division on the issue. >> can we acknowledge the excuse that the speaker used, it's the president and republicans can't trust him. can we acknowledge that was a pretty lame excuse? this was about opposition within the republican conference. >> look, i was at the conference where this was discussed. there is a great deal of sceptici

they're out there spinning from senator durbin to david plouffe on down. >> the common theme is job lockjob lock. they're saying, hey, job lock is a bad thing. what it does is enables you to going out there now and if you don't like the job you have with obamacare, you can just float from job to job, 'cause you're really not happy with the job you have. that's what we were hearing on the sunday shows. >> it will give you more time to stay with your family. trey gowdy is bringing in a dose of reality. take a look at this. >> liberals and the democrats want you to believe is, well, you'll have more time to write poetry and you can sit around and figure out whether infinity is a number or just a concept. well, that's great until you try to go buy your grand kid a birthday present or try to pay the heating bill. go give your interpretation of a poem to the clerk. they're going to want money. >> how far you can get in the number pi? >> you work on that. >> i was hoping never to see that symbol again when i got in this job. let's talk about this because the government -- do you want to maybe s