to the fact that facebook wasas not the first out of the gates. we w want to have you both back on, so join us next timen the "washington businesseport." and coming up, if you have a business plan, throw it out >> going against conventional wisdom, business plans arnot a good idea. he saysis back a and business plans give a false sesense of security and frankly banks to not even care about them. if ebong eka says it, we believe it. he has helped others t started and cceed in business. now he shahares that wisdom in s new book "start me up." welcome back. starts whenord th business plansre, so what isis the problem with business plans? >> it keeps people from moving forward in their process. anytime we see resisistance, we stop. woing with a l lot of people, they cannot get past the business plan ste with their ideas. some have great executi but they felt theyeeded a business plan, so i it is a waste of tim. >> you and jonathan were talking over the break and he said venture capitalists and banks do not look at them, so they are a waste of time. i