. >> i want to ask about pope john xxiii, everything they said about him, he was a loving, caring pastoral, and i want to ask you two things, how far has vatican ii really -- how much of it really is in the church today and if he had lived longer, would we be farther ahead? >> okay. those are good questions. the first one is this: first of all, i think to me the blessed john xxiii's existence was this, he genuinely trusted in the holy spirit. he believed in arguments, passionate disagreements the spirit could be present moving toward a consensus. he wasn't embarrassed by that. during vatican ii he didn't intervene. he didn't reserve certain things to himself. he didn't get nervous because they think oh the church is out of control. the only one who should be controlling the church is the holy spirit to begin with. he had that beautiful spirit, when he called vatican ii, he said two things in 1959 he went to the old cathedral to announce the council, he said first of all i want to have a dialogue with the modern world so the church is in contact with the modern world. secondly, i would like

he will probably show up at the canonization on april 27th of pope john paul and john xxiii but for thet part he is leading a life of prayer and reading and quiet, which befits an 86-year-old man. >> coming up on the one-year anniversary of pope francis, how would you sum up his year? i feel like this is such a lighthouse because it was just an astounding year for him, but what do you make of it? >> i think astounding is a good word. i think change would be the word i would come up with. he has change sod much not in terms of doctrine, of course, but just in the church's stance and openness and even in simple things like moving out of the apostolic palace into a simple room, speaking more in an inviting way to people, and i think he has the common touch and i think people just love him for it and i'm one of them. >> reverend, thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >>> also in world news, proek for the first time declared publicly he is instructing the pentagon to prepare for the so-called zero option. no u.s. troops in afghanistan, no counterterrorism, no advisers. in this in the past has not