we knew the soviet services. we knew them probably better than almost any individual working in them. and you have to -- at times you have to think like the opposition. it's that old story, anybody-there are a number of you here who saw george c. scott in patton, when he said, rommel, you sob, i read your book, and that's really what it is. that's part of it. anymore questions? >> one more. if all this evidence and he was convicted, -- i have to say this rhetorically. why was he given life instead of the death penalty? >> a good question. that all that was on the federal books. at the time, and i think this went back -- i am not positive but i think this went back years to frank church, the church committee. i think that's what it was, and i think it was death only in times of war, and might not even have been that. however, what did happen because of ames, the death penalty was put back on the books, and robert hansen faced death, bunked stead i think he got something even worse. he went to supermax in colorado.

soviet union. two months later, he decided to provide his kbg handlers with the names of or identifying information on every single human sources reporting on the soviet union. those who were currently reporting, those who were retired and those who were do dormant. he knew they would face a trial and be executed with a bullet to the back of the head. now, it is 1985 and the nightmare begins. late may, gru asset in athens, greece receives a cable saying you are to return to moscow. we bring him safely to the united states. earlier august, juke from nigeria is arrested in moscow during a home leave. sometime between august and october, our aspect in portugal sl also arrested in moscow during a home leave. november 26th, a flight bound to moscow over and back, short trip, but we never see him again. again, early november, kbg asset in bond with germany travels to east berlin for a three-day conference. he disappears. and into february of 1996. our asset is arrested in moscow. june or july. rgu asset

has history of corruption dates back to the soviet union but continues since the demise of the soviet union. for that reason it maybe easierr russian puppets of, other puppets of the old soviet union to say, we need to go in there and we need russian troops to make sure that this country doesn't dissolve into chaos. gerri: that is obviously a possibility. let's bring in back ashley webster who is following the story closely. ashley, do you see conflict? do you see dissolution? what do you see in your crystal ball? >> this is a different cut one and as david said what are we calling this? is this an invasion? certainly appears that way but who are the troops in unidentified uniforms? as i said earlier there are those who speculate, everyone does that when she these events move at such a fast pace, private security firm that the kremlin uses from time to time and uses them to take out actions where technically they're not actually using their own troops. that could be the case but the bigger picture is what is the endgame? what are they doing? those that believe vladmir putin is trying

narrator: at the end of the soviet era, a typical st. petersburg family paid five to ten percent ofheir total income for housing. today the average is 40% to 50%. incomes have risen, too, but not as rapidly, so the net effecis that housing for most people is more expensive an before privatization. the new apartments that are being constructed by private developers cost at least $1,000 a square meter, so a new apartment the size of the gorunovs' might cost $40,000. the only peoplwho can afford this kind of price are the so-called new russians. ( speaking russian ) translator: the overwhelming majority of new homeowners are the so-called new russians, people who are in the trade sector that's developing dynamically. hardwick: they would tend to be the entrepreneurs, people that are in the travel and tourism industry. some of them used to work for intourist, perhaps. they probably speak english, german, other european languages. and so they, along with, of course, the criminal element that's unfortunately all too common throughout the world

his mind is very so to say soviet. >> soviet. >> his mind is very soviet. >> calls him a throw-back.all heimstra additional as he told me in this december press conference. >> translator: need to find the most traditional values without these values society becomes degraded. quite clearly we need to return to these values to understand the reason for this, the evaluations, appraisals of them and to move forward. >> he tends to pick on values we could call traditional conservative values, his anti-gay policies being a pretty good example of that. what he's really saying is we in russia are a pure civilization. >> putin sees himself as protector and savior of modern russia. over the last decade, putin has paid off russia's debt, improved the quality of life for many, and made russia a major player in international affairs. >> he's also shown just in the pass six months or so some dexterity and diplomacy, making a virtue out of the crisis in syria, getting russia back into the game of diplomacy in the middle east and that kind of thing. i think there is a certain accomplishment there. >

right on russia's borders in ukraine but this is a process that's been going on since the end of the soviet union nearly twenty two years now eric in new york how do you reflect upon that because i want to talk about ukraine a little bit later in the program but if you read western media right now i mean it's gotten to the point of steria absolute hysteria the the economist the washington post never friends of russia but in this week alone this is getting to the point of going to proportions that i've never ever seen even during the cold war i would say. well i think that the timing is instructive of course the sochi games the the triumphal sort of per session for russia on the world stage is they're attempting to undermine that of course as we all know the olympics is not merely an athletic event it's not merely a two week extravaganza it's also a corporate event it is an attempt for any country in this case russia to sort of parade itself on the world stage as being a haven for investment as having made tremendous strides in terms of infrastructure as having moved forward economically soc

-soviet partnership. but the fact is, even starting before then, going back i think you could say in some ways to the reagan administration, the been, wasnership" had already, and would for some time translated into the realm of policy, diplomacy him and even strategy on both sides. that was true in dealing with a number of very contentious in europe. i mentioned the bcm from serbia is here. iod in the 1990's when a despite the strong disagreement between the united states and the russian federation over the use of nato force, particularly in the course of oh operation, -- particularly in the kosovo operation, there was a high degree of diplomacy to bring that war to an end. there were numerous our competence -- there were numerous our competence in arms control, which for the time being brought into retirement the balance of terror. and i think particularly given kiev,ws of the day from it is worth remembering that particularly in the early 1990's, the russian federation and the united states worked very

cohen in new york he is a professor emeritus of russian studies at new york university and author of soviet fates in last alternatives that currently is out in paperback from columbia university press also in new york we have eric draitser he is a geo political analyst and founder of stop imperialism dot org and in london we cross to mark and he is a modern history lecturer at the university of oxford right gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want stephen cohen if i go to you first in new york when you hear the term new cold war because it's part of your title of your most recent book what does it mean to you and what should it mean to our viewers. what it means i don't know whether we're in a new cold war or a continuation of the old cold war and it doesn't really matter whether we call it a cold war or not but the conflicts the dangers the issues the confrontations that characterize the forty year cold war between the united states and russia and russia in the west are back and. and in some ways it's different and in some ways it's even more dangero

meanwhile the soviets were also recruiting nazi criminals and there's a track record of that that can be clearly established so you have a a open market if you will in which the. the on the one hand there were prosecutions of nazis. on the other hand there was recruiting of nazis and protection of them in a for idea of different ways by the western allies as well as by the soviets. you see today some of the same phenomenon in terms of people who are responsible for very serious crimes southeast asia other parts of the world. again will be picked up for intelligence purposes or for even for commercial gain and some of these people weren't just in the nazi party i mean they were actually they were at the nerver trials for crimes against humanity or crimes i mean these people were guilty of a lot what's your response you briefly mention that the soviets were also recruiting nazis as well that's kind of a common response that we hear is that if we didn't recruit them the soviets would have taken them all the clain on the part of the western allies that the soviets would recruit them all t

-soviet partnership. but the fact is, even starting before then, going back i think you could say in some ways to the reagan administration, the word "partnership" had been, was already, and would for some time to come been translated into the realm of policy, diplomacy, and even strategy on both sides. that was true in dealing with a number of very contentious issues in europe. that was true in dealing with a number of very contentious in europe. i mentioned the bcm from serbia is here. iod in the 1990's when a despite the strong disagreement between the united states and the russian federation over the use of nato force, particularly in the course of oh operation, -- particularly in the kosovo operation, there was a high degree of diplomacy to bring that war to an end. there were numerous our competence -- there were numerous our competence in arms control, which for the time being brought into retirement the balance of terror. and i think particularly given kiev,ws of the day from it is worth rememberi

would have taken them all the clain on the part of the western allies that the soviets would recruit them all those falls. at the major initiative to recruit nazi criminals came from the western allies that set. the the soviets to were engaged in selection of a particular people that they thought would be beneficial to them mainly for intelligence type purposes intelligence and propaganda and so on. once you start looking at the situation it gets more complicated than it looks on the surface because for example some. oh somebody who was a german. who did participate in crimes against humanity who was guilty and then changes his or her stripes during the war or after the war well what does i mean well in my personal opinion in my view it means that they still have to be brought to justice for crimes that they did in fact commit but that they're post-war attitudes are part of the complicated judgment to society makes out against people who commit very very serious crimes and what was the long term effect on american intelligence of of him playing this program where there was a severely

it's a pre-arranged withdrawal, not a soviet style retreat. it doesn't stop people feeling uneasy about what the future holds. >> coming up, andy with the latest from the winter olympics , and news of a surprise defeat for the defending wimbledon champion. >> nigeria has become a hub of banking and internet fraud. banks are trying to cut crime, with the introduction of biometic technology. as we report, not everyone is convinced it will work. >> introducing tighter controls into the banking system, over the next few months millions of bank customers will cue up to have their faces and fingerprints scanned. regulators see the implementation as a solution to bank fraud and money laundering that have given the country a bad day. >> if you find the microfinance in one point, your data is available to everybody. you can't go to an atm, you can't go and borrow money. it's enough of a deterrent. it will change behaviour and attitudes. >> the challenges are enormous. rolling out the scheme will cost months. some face challenges of their own. >> banks

and the army traditionally seen the soviet union posted. partly because of the experience that we nationalize it, the positions that especially wanted him to leave the cabinet >> and the axis power is an old one. and trust one another. the question, the issue of wanting the jews on their side, and the other hand you hear stories from german business men, a very long ago being taken out for drunken evening by japanese colleagues who thought it would please west german colleagues enormously if they start seeing -- was not the thing to do. >> i am afraid part of the question has been taken up, interested in whether germany was instrumental in urging japan to enter the war and i was curious did they know the japanese were going to attack or any of the details of it? america declared war but not against germany. it wasn't clear what was going to happen and there was even some thought that it might be beneficial for hitler not to declare war and see what happened. the details of those few days and what the germans urged japan to do this? >> not a

>> the soviets, did leech behind najib but he had no support in the country and the soviets didn't stayh him. so just pulling out and leaving nothing behind very bad idea. >> so how critical is it for the u.s. to reach a security deal with the afghan government? >> well, whether u.s. troops stay in the country or not, i think, is still an open questi question, and maybe not the really consequently one. >> really? >> the important thing is, it is a government, it is an elected government, there are some irregularities in the government but there is an army. it simply does not have a budget that would allow it to maintain 200,000 men under arms between the police and the military. so i think continued financial support to the government is absolutely key. >> so do you feel more encouraged looking at the afghan government today, when you compare it to what the soviets left behind 25 years ago? >> oh, absolutely. the afghan government today has a lot of problems, capacity problems, bureaucratic problems but it is a government. and it does function to some extent. whereas, the soviet experim

ukraine and georgia were inside the soviet union. they were not just in the warsaw pack, but parts of ukraine were longstanding parts of the russian empire. it's not the case that it was an independent state, and the soviet union took over. it was a victim of world war ii, and that's where it ended up. >> the cold war and n.a.t.o. ended up around the world. they have helped humanitarian observations, and provided security at the olympics in athens. do you people like, professor, that the purpose shifted too much. >> i don't think it shifted too much. you are right when you say n.a.t.o. is trying to figure out what its rules should be, and at the september summit that will take place in the u.k., one of the things they ask about is whether it makes sense to think about n.a.t.o. preplanning and acting together as an alliance where everyone has a role in intervention, or whether it makes sense to have a lead country like france, take the lead when it has a particular interest in a country, and cobble together a coalition from like-minde

it's a pre-arranged withdrawal, not a soviet style re treat. it doesn't stop them feeling uneasy about what the future holds. >> nigeria has become known as a hub of banking and internet fraud over recent years, and banks there are fighting back. hamad idris reports from buja. >> introducing tighter controls into the banking system. over the next few months, millions of customers will queue up to have faces and fingerprints scanned to secure transactions. regulators see the implementation as a solution to bank fraud and money laundering that has given the country a bad name. >> in one point, your data is available to everybody. you can't go and borrow money. it's enough of a deterrent. that changes behaviour and attitudes. >> the challenges are enormous. rolling out the scheme will take months and cost money to banks. some are facing challenges of their own. >> banks in nigeria lose millions to fraud and money laundering. they are hoping that this system will help to reduce those losses and protect people's money. >> some are to secure deposits

we work so to say the fruits of the soviet ideology when we went to afghanistan. we believe that afghanistan would become the sixteenth union republic of course after all these years we realize what we brought to afghanistan. faced with the conditions for them he did of cisco could to get into the soviet troops including kazakhstan citizens who unfortunately were not able to return to their homeland and staying in afghanistan forever certainly in my opinion is one of the blackest pages in the history of kazakhstan and we should remember our history we should remember those people who stayed here in the. last august the latest news is that three got the dogs cuts out that stevie got kate said and. a special treat to shrink as external still don't know much of this event was organized for the national post company cuts post with the aim of developing a marketing e commerce. it was because this is an opportunity for internet stores to enter new markets and free sample the markets as expanding china. in this case has extended the whatever keep my kids last year the va

soviets murder villages.villages rise up, soviets are killed and th ma their victorio. >> this reminds the horrors of war. >> history is about to repeat itself. >> when the sel soviets were defeated, the world abandoned us. they didn't help to reconstruct the country. now it's the same over again. we sacrificed ourselves for the war on terror. after years of afghans being killed they're going to abandon us again. >> the n.a.t.o. combat mission ends this year. it's a pre-arranged withdrawal, not a soviet style retreat, but that does not stop people from feeling uneasy about what the future holds. >> and finally the united states hockey team scored a pretty big win in sochi against russia today. it was a dramatic sudden death victory where the u.s. defeated the home team 3-2. this game was just part of the seating process. most countries are still going for the gold. that's it for this hour. caught in the middle of the syrian conflict, life for evacuees from the old city of homs. i'm morgan radford. stay tune f

georgia the former soviet republic of georgia. basically just a vis aerated president putin and this is a guy who is living in the united states my understanding is that if had he stayed in georgia his number two guy basically is is in prison you know with no possibility of parole that he would be prosecuted. back in in two thousand and eight i was going off on this on the radio at some length karl rove had been subpoenaed to testify before congress in the don siegelman case and a few other matters he ignored the subpoena instead went to yalta and met with saakashvili and then shortly after saakashvili is invading south though such as you get in a basically provoking russia and then john mccain who's running for president just by coincidence is is running around saying we've got to do something we've got to you know that. and obama does not a handle if he doesn't have a national security experience elect me president. what's well and now and not and that and then mccain a few months ago went to ukraine and the problems in ukraine

. >> uniting a divided nation - a major city where ukraine's revolution is not welcomed by the soviet generation. >> plus, peril for the produce industry. why some healthy snacks may become forbidden fruit. >> at least the parents from young children are hearing the messages and stopping these things before they are a problem. >> it's heralded as a breakthrough in childhood obesity. signs that all the warnings are being taken to heart. >> hi there, everyone. good to have you with us. welcome to al jazeera america. i'm thomas drayton. president obama's patience with afghanistan is wearing thing. after months of negotiations, the president issued an ultimatum on tuesday. he told afghan president hamid karzai - sign the deal or the u.s. is pulling all u.s. troops from afghanistan by the end of the year. as patty culhane shows, it creates a showdown with potentially huge consequences for both countries. >> u.s. president obama left the negotiating with afghanistan's president hamid karzai to his staff. after nine months of silence, he picked up the phone on tuesday to send him a personal

the crimea belong to the russian soviet republic until nine hundred fifty four when the then soviet leadership decided to transfer it to the administration off soviet crane and when the u.s.s.r. collapsed in one thousand nine hundred one the crimea was left as a part of independent ukraine but for the last few centuries mainly ethnic russians have been living on these lands alongside minorities including the muslim crimean tatars to the crimea always used to be russian and was passed over to the crane unlawfully it's time for justice to prevail in the square in front of the a local administration building here in secret all we had was a. division. and. yeah. for political change and if you are truly brilliant and gulf war pro russian with the russian flags there for ukraine works here and the tensions are reaching the boiling point. even i knew several this weeks that would most of the crimean tartars have been siding with the ukrainian nationalist but they were never able to agree on much was about tatars want their own crimean tartar government as it was with that idea is too far fetched to

so, looking at it from that element, the soviets had a similar -- in terms of knowing who they wanted to support during those crucial years which you discuss so i'm wondering isn't it our question of geopolitics and direct its rather than the agency of some arabists? they happen to be sort of believers in the great christian civilization and the second question is you said 67 is a turning point. isn't it more 91 and that is the key question when the soviet union collapses and when it does the whole prism of looking at the region through this geopolitical lens falls apart and in the process it's a more dangerous place because the soviet union isn't around anymore to keep its satellite states in check so there is no interlocutor who can put the lid on them and repent the crises so what degree 91 is more important and epistemological or you for people in the region than 67? >> briefly you are right about how it flips the region in terms of cohort geopolitical calculations. the israelis originally are seen by many on the american side as more likely to fall into soviet camp than the u.s..

soviet relations and u.s.-russian relations. to your question about saudi arabia, let me say of course the russians always say the u.s. pursues double standards, that we criticize russia for doing things we don't criticize china for, saudi arabia. the russians have of course that russia is a european country. their member of the council of era. they signed up to agreements where they are supposed to adhere to these alien tick marks, which of course china hasn't done to my saudi arabia hasn't done. but the u.s. in the past has not been consistent in the way it is criticize for some things that happened domestically and not criticize some of russia's neighbors. i go into this in the book because there's strategic partners for the united states at least in the war on terror. the obama administration has been pretty scaled at dealing with these issues. the reset when it worked and how that works so well in the last year or two explicitly differentiated between working with russia on common interests like arms control, like her rant,

villages rise up, the soviets are killed.s one of the few easily accessible accounts of the country. >> the history books often gloss over the more 30 years of conflict that has blighted this country. this museum was created to remind generations graphically of the horrors of war. the museum was founded by a former mujahideen commander. his son sees history is about to repeat itself. when the soviets were defeated the world abandoned us. they didn't help reconstruct this country. they didn't even want a functioning government to be established. now it's the same all over again. we sacrifice ourselves over war against terrorism, now it's happening again. now they're going to abandon us again. >> a pre-arranged withdrawal, not a soviet style retreat, but that does not stop people from feeling uneasy about what the future holds. bernard smith, al jazeera, afghanistan. >> iin the ukraine the man who was kidnapped said he believes his captors were russian. lately they've been adding unlikely recruits. we have reports from kiev on

the jewish state would reemerge and would be aligned with the soviet union.all through this major predictions were wrong. thatan make a strong case rather than diminishing american influence in the middle east -- in fact am america's involvement -arabe israeli-palestinian conflict has enhanced america's standing in the middle east. you can turn that argument on its head. did the u.s. underestimate the impact of political islam? yes. it is not just america. there is a strong tendency among the american press to downplay the emotional and intellectual power of islam. there's a basic journalistic narrative that people turn tog islam out of despair -- turn to islam out of despair. it is always downplayed. beyond that, every administration can come into office with its own worldview. speech.k to the cairo president obama is addressing the muslim world and says you can be muslim, but if you are muslim and democratic and absorb democratic norms, that we have the basis for a strong alliance and a new relationship. look at the middle eastern leaders of from the presid

soviet relations in u.s.-russian relations.to your russians about saudi arabia and of course the russians will always say that the u.s. pursues double standards that we criticize russia for doing things we don't criticize china for saudi arabia. the russians have of course said that rush is a european country. they are a member of the council of europe. they have signed onto conventions into agreements where they are supposed to adhere to the atlantic norms which of course china hasn't done in saudi arabia hasn't done that it is true that i think the u.s. has in the past not been consistent in the way that it has criticize russia for some things that happened domestically and not criticize some of russia's neighbors. i go into this in the book azerbaijan because they are strategic partners for the united states released in the war on terror. i think the obama administration has been pretty skilled at dealing with these issues. the reset when it worked and it hasn't worked so well and the last year or two explicitly differentiat

under the soviet union so they have a lot of good things you know that they inherited from the soviet union they also have some bad ones and the bad one is to always look up to the authority to walk up to kiev to fulfill the orders even though these orders are now coming from possibly the people who are like mr jarosz i think it's a scandal that mr jarosz who holds all the in the anti-semitic views is going to become a deputy prime minister of ukraine i think it's a scandal that mr tague nyborg is median european leaders that for the first time since i think nine hundred thirty nine we have the situation. i was sorry that i'm on they could not finish i think i can go forward for thinking you know when you say that elections were criticized by the media so that means that the next election is going to be unfair. i don't know then it's very easy to invalidate any election in the world i'm a journalist i walked with a western journalist i know how easily they report about the breaches of electoral processes in other countries not in their own i mean international organization folks i'm r

>> it's pretty big pressure when you play for the soviet treatment. >> he was part of the soviet teamhat had to regain the gold after the disaster of their loss to the u.s.? lake placid in 1980. >> dow believe in miracles yes! >> that was pressure. but it may be nothing compared to here in sochi. >> with a loss here be as big as the loss in lake placid was? >> could be. >> reporter: but there's no sympathy for the home boys here, fromÑi competitors like u.s. defenceman kevin shattenkirk. >> due feel any sympathy for the russians? >> not really. >> here these games won't be remembered for their security concerns or their enormous costs. here, james, they'll be remembered for whether or not the russiansuj gold in hockey. mark phillips, thank you very much. >> a four-year-old walked through the desert to escape thexd horrors of war. what's causing deadly avalanches in the west. and these tiny babies had quite a surprise for their mother when the "cbs evening news" continue continues. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help protect your eye health. as you age, your eyes can

soviet relations and u.s.-russia relations. to your question about saudi arabia and of course the russians will always say that the u.s. pursues double standards that we criticize russia for doing things that we don't criticize china for. the russians have of course said that russia is a european country. there are a number -- member of the consulate of your been signed off on conventions do agreements where they are supposed to adhere to these norms which of course china hasn't done and saudi arabia hasn't done but it is true that i think the u.s. has in the past not been consistent in the way that it has criticized russia for something should happen to drastically and not criticize some of russia's neighbors in azerbaijan and kazakhstan. you think the obama administration has been pretty skilled at dealing with these issues. when at work and it hasn't worked so well in the last two years differentiated between working with rush on these common interests like arms control, like iran like missile defense, like afghanistan and s

. >> when they beat the soviets, the soviets were lining and complaining, they have a sign outside the u.s. consulate because they didn't like the refs decision. >> we all played hockey, i was the only one remember that i didn't lose my teeth. >> which we talked about. >> and then i lost them when i fell off a roof. >> elizabeth asks, why are you so handsome? >> nobody wrote that question? >> they did, i swear to god they wrote that in there. >> i could not get a date for most of my life. >> i swear to god. >> i don't believe that. >> i could not get a date for most of my life? >> with that dazzling head of hair you have? >> i had somebody recently say, have you thought about dying it? so -- she needs new glasses, get her new glasses. >> if you don't start dying your hair, please don't do it box. >> why? >> it will turn out and look eggplant color. >> you're saying i should dye my hair? >> do you say that to imus in the morning? i doubt you would say that to him. >> no, i would not say that to him. >> you think he should? >> no. isn't he past that point? >> no, he has a -- no -- >> you

-soviet and u.s.-russian relations. the russians always say we criticize them for things we don't china or saudi arabia for. russia is a european country, they are a member of the counsel of europe, and signed on to conventions of agreements where they are supposed to adhere to the norms and china and saudi arabia haven't done that. it is true the u.s. has not been consistent for criticizing russia and not their neighbors and i go into this in the book because they are important partners for the united states at least in the war on terror. i think the obama administration has been pretty skilled at dealing with these issues. the reset, when it worked, and it hasn't in the last year or two, worked with russia on common interest like iran, missile defense and afghanistan and saying it was a two-track policy and separated from what what the was happening domestically in russia. this has changed in the last year, well the last couple years, since putin has thrown out other u.s. ngo's and we had the acts that banned the adop

it was a move from the soviet to the american sphere. it signaled the rapid decline of the soviet union as a serious challenger to american hegemony in the middle east. the pax america, officially began with the 1979 peace treaty between egypt and israel. this treaty established the precedent for later peace treaty between israel and jordan as well as for the 1993 oslo accords between israel and the palestine liberation organization. it also set the precedent for later peace conferences whether it be in madrid or in annapolis. the people of the middle east became accustomed to the assumption that only the united states could play the role of effective mediator in defense pro-soviet states like syria would host over 30 visits by secretary of state warren christopher in the 1990s which was extraordinary. as the soviet union disintegrated so too did its military presence in the middle east. remember that great blue water fleet of the soviet union back in 1973 that went eyeball to eyeball with the american fleet? that virtually disappeared.

we rooted like hell for them against the soviet union.spent is the entire cold war avoiding face to face military conflict with the soviet union. we didn't want to fight them. i think we're on the same tricky slope right now. make our values clear but don't let it get to be the russia and putin who is very much like the soviet union fighting over turf. don't let it become that because that means real trouble. >> that, judy, is what you heard ambassador rice insist on, that that's not how president obama wants this to be viewed. >> that's right. you asked her about, is this a return to the cold war? certainly that's how putin sees it. you heard her say, that's not how we see it. but for the united states, it is crucial in that it affects europe's stability. it's another place. the u.s. needs russia right now to work with us on syria. you asked her about syria. the u.s. needs russia to work with us on iran. these are countries that have a direct relationship right now to some of the international issues we care the most about. but at the sa

the soviets had their version of paperclip. they grabbed a lot of german scientists, but they treated them as second class citizens because of the animosity from the war >> whereas we gave them big money and nice houses. >> the russians sent then home and continued. look at the results. their biochemical weapons was stronger than ours. did we need the nazis? >> i think not. >> is it fair to look back at what was going on back then through our lens today without getting ourselves in the shoes of what happened back then, and the utter fear, once the soviets got the atomic bond. >> that's one train of thought. many will tell you that who support the program to this day. they'll say how dare you stand on the ped stall and look back. that's why i tried to have this conclusion, let it be drawn by the reader. >> it's an incredible story, it's fascinating, and a lot of credible work. >> the book is operation paperclip, the secret intelligence program bringing nazi scientists to america. >> did the u.s. speed skating lose because of fas

2 soviets we have won. . we have won. >> what do you make then of bobby kennedy had 11 children. one of his children is named matthew, maxwell, taylor kennedy -- matthew maxwell taylor kennedy. >> he had a great regard for maxwell taylor. he was a revered military figure and someone who they admired. he had resigned from his military position during the eisenhower presidency because he disagreed with the eisenhower idea of massive retaliation. he was the one who spoke for the idea of building up ground forces to combat or counter any soviet threat in europe. that is why they brought him in to the white house. he had this opposing view to the idea of massive retaliation. they appreciated that. over time, i think the fact that he was reflecting -- he was in a difficult position. was he going to come to the white house and say, the gene choice -- joint chiefs, i think -- the joint chiefs are all wet. i do not think that kennedy found that appealing at all. >> another man who likes a lot of attention is robert mc

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there's a lot of old soviet cars still driving around. we ran into a few of them. there's one of them. we will show you some of the cars from 20 and 30 years ago that are still on the road today. also, i will try what has been told to be the impossible. i will attempt to make some russians smile and perhaps even laugh. that's all coming up. i know it's a big day for the markets as well. back to you. >> if anybody can make them smile, it will be you. we will come back to you shortly. >>> a big line that's getting a lot of buzz, tesla's ceo elon musk reportedly met with apple's head of merger and acquisitions last year. it's got many wondering if a deal could be in the works. phil lebeau joins us with more. are they stronger together? >> reporter: oh, i don't think they're stronger together. i'm not really sure that this is an indication that tesla is interested in selling to apple or apple is interested in buying tesla. when you take a look at this report, the thing to focus on is that you are talking about the head of m & a for apple and elon musk, ceo of tesla, ha

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