. >> thank you, my name is susan irving and i direct the work at gao on debt management so i am a ig fan of article one. as the co-author of the first outlook report calling attention to the long-term, i want my comments not to be heard is doubting that. i would like to suggest that the 1974 act did not create vector spending, it arrived before that. i would like to suggest that your goal of wanting congress to have to look at the debt consequences of spending and revenue actions is hurt by an act of the debt limit rather than help. now you can -- people can write to their elected officials and their elected officials can vote for increases in mandatory spending, custom revenues, emergency supplemental without offset and later vote against paying for them. f it becomes aree vote and if you are seeking to look at the long-term and change fiscal policy, it seems the time to pay attention to the debt consequences of actions is not when you are deciding whether to raise the debt limit after the fact but whether you are deciding on spending. it would be important to separate out. i'm aski

. >> hello, my name is susan irving and i have the fiscal outlook of debt management. is the co-author of the fiscal outlook report calling attention for that cannot be heard in any way. i would like to suggest that the act didn't create that kind of spending that arrived before that. and i would like to suggest that actually her goal of wanting congress to have to look at the debt consequences and the public of spending revenue actions is actually hurt by an after-the-fact debt limit rather than helping. and now people can write to their elected officials and they can vote for increases in mandatory spending and emergency supplementals without an offset and later wrote against paying for them. so that it is a free vote. if you are really seeking to look at the long-term and tried to change the fiscal policy, it seems to me it is time to pay attention to the debt consequences not when you are deciding whether to raise the debt limit after the fact, but whether at the time you talked about the spending and i think that it is important and i'm asking what you think about

. >> my name is susan irving and i direct the long-term fiscal outlook and debt management and so i am a big fan of article i mr. lindsey. also as the co-author of the first launch of the fiscal ballot report calling attention to the long-term i would want my comments about the debt limit to not be heard in any way as doubting that but i would like to suggest the 74 acted and create backdoor spending. i would like to suggest actually her goal of wanting congress to have to look at the debt consequences and spending and revenue actions is actually hurt by an after-the-fact debt limit rather than helped. that is now people can write to their elected officials and their elected officials can vote for increases in mandatory spending cuts in revenue emergency supplementals without an offset and then later wrote against paying for them. so it becomes a free vote and if you are really seeking to look at the long-term and try to change fiscal policy it seems to me the time to pay attention to the debt consequences of actions is not when you're deciding whether to raise the debt limit after-the

susan mcginnis is in washington where the state department has irved a new travel alert, calling the situation unpredictable, susan. >> good morning, anne-marie. yeah, washington is taking this latest escalation of violence in kiev very seriously. the state department is warning americans about travel to ukraine and warning americans who are there to keep a low profile, and now the white house is getting involved. it's another day of violence in kiev after overnight talks between protesters and the government failed to end the fighting. security forces raided the protesters' camp site yesterday using tear gas, stun grenades and cannons. the two sides clashed violently over the future of ukraine. >> this is a direct consequence of u.s./russian relations, both competing for a sphere of influence and also souring in terms of relations. >> reporter: the protests began in november when the president reject add plan to work with the european union in favor of a $15 billion bailout from russia. yesterday vice president biden called ukraine's president to urge a way to stop a violence. >> we