tom. >> all right, joining me now to talk more about his confrontation, patriot radio host, and democratic strategist, richard fowleru were there, you confronted him. he stands by his ignorance. >> not only does he stand by this, but as we'll see as we play out this story, sean, it is more about exposing ignorance, hypocrisy, bigotry, the difference here is that alvin holmes is somebody who uses this. he is smart enough to use it because it plays to something that matters to them, which is frankly the dishonesty in this when you think about somebody who knew martin luther king jr., who has been in the house in '74 in alabama. who has been through the tough times but yet continues to argue back then what happened pre-civil rights, not now. >> all right, let's continue, you asked him about the comment, the inter racial comments, the tape where he pushes off the blame. >> you introduced the bill, you made a statement about his marriage to a white woman. >> because there were members on the floor who were saying -- >> what members were saying -- >> many of them, many of them. >> so you reflected members on the floor who