so the chairman has put forth in a crowd sources manner, a mechanism and a means for us to self-evaluate. we are not in isolation. we are not working in a vacuum. we continue to work with congress to better the process. but we continue to look within ourselves. getting information from those o do business with us from those internal in terms of -- i always say from the guard's desk to the chairman's desk. just looking at creative new ideas in order to improve ourselves. we are in the reform business. we are in the process reform business and i am really happy that we are not satisfied. we are doing a great job but we are not satisfied with that. we want to do better. >> you are in your fifth year at the f.c.c. have you been surprised at the engagement of the american public with the commission? >> i am pleased because people recognize particularly with one of our key objectives providing a more umbick to us broad band pportunity in this nation. communities know how enabling this is. i'm pleased at the level of engagement. i am pleased people have figured out i'm at the f.c.c. and not the

so the chairman has put forth in a crowd sourcing manner a mechanism and a means for us to self-evaluate. and so we are not in isolation, we're not working in a vacuum. we continue to work with congress to better process, but we continue to look within ourselves, you know, getting information from those who do business us, from those internal in terms of -- i always say from the guard's desk to the chairman's desk, just looking at creative new ideas in order to um prove ourselves. so -- improve ourselves. so we are in the reform business. we are in the process reform business, and i am really happy that we're not satisfied. we're doing a great job, but we're not satisfied with that. we want to do better. >> host: you're now in your fifth year at the fcc. have you been surprised at the engagement of the american public with your commission? >> guest: i am -- the word may not be -- i'm pleased. because people recognize, particularly with one of our key objectives, providing more ubiquitous and affordable broadband opportunities to this nation, more and more people, more and more communitie

used to getting examined and qualified. therefore i don't perceive as general richardson said that there is an element that you have to get the highest grade because we are constantly evaluating and selfrselves within the program. >> if you mentioned this excuse me but how many sailors have been decertified and could you tell us, you said one sailor have been encouraged to join and it sounded like a sort of group of people who were cheating and came forward. it does not come to light because of the review was ordered by -- in relation to the air force? >> it did not. we were looking very hard ourselves as we always do so the theme that emerges here is that there is a climate of introspection looking for problems and solving them so we don't constantly assess ourselves. this did not calm forward as a consequence of that ongoing thing. this was a sailor who has been fully trained from the moment he enters boot camp that integrity is the foundation of our navy's operations and including the naval nuclear propulsion program. he recognized when he was asked to join that is not consistent with those values in the command. [inaudible] >> really we are still bounding out problems so i'm hesit

used to getting examinations -- getting examiner qualified in their -- therefore, i don't perceive, as admiral richardson said, that there's an element of "you have to get the highest grade." because we're constantly evaluating and self-assessing ourselves within this program. >> how many -- sorry -- if you've answered this, excuse me, but how many sailors have been decertified? and could you tell us a little more about how this came to light? you said one sailor had been encouraged to -- to join in. it sounded like a sort of group of people who were cheating and he came forward. did this not come to light because of the review that was ordered by the secdef in relation to the air force? >> it did not. we were, of course, you know, looking very hard at ourselves, as we always do. so i hope the theme that emerges here is that, you know, there is a climate of introspection, of looking for problems and solving them -- so we are constantly assessing ourselves. this did not come forward as a consequence of that ongoing thing. this was a sailor who, you know, has been fully trained from the moment he enters boot camp that integrity is a foundation of our navy's operations and -- including the naval nuclear propulsion progr