ari leavy is a bloomberg news technology editor and joins me here in san francisco with the latest on the story. ari, let's start with what we are learning about that process of steve balmer pushing for this bigger move into hardware, trying to get a nokia deal done. it sounds like board members were not so sure about it. >> the surprise would be if there was not a lot of debate in the board room about this. a $7 billion deal for a handset maker, for a company that is trying to shift into the next generation of software and devices. they are buying one of the legacy players. a lot of boardroom drama taking place around this deal. ballmer was a big supporter of this. was it his last best effort to maintain a hold of the company? in some ways that is how it is sounding now. there are some board members who are opposed from the get-go. >> maybe if we can get a sense of what seems like regret in terms of when microsoft made its move into hardware from steve balmer, we should listen to what steve balmer said over the last 24 hours. in terms of the tricks microsoft has had over the years, m

joining us today, ari leavy. what you have for us? 200 50,000.t of money in dollars twins areegal box -- willing to pay to go to space. he is sending residents of the world like you and i who can afford it to go to space. bitcoins.oing it in >> you can pay in bitcoin? >> if you have $250,000 worth of bitcoin. they go over the history of marco polo and columbus. my biggest question is, are they angling to do some space rowing? how cool would that be? the twins are out there. i don't know. they are very gung ho about this . >> it's a natural progression of history. rowing in space is something they will be talking with richard branson about in the coming months. >> thanks a lot. you can get the latest headlines at the top of the hour on bloomberg radio and all the time on bloomberg.com/technology. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ . . ♪ >> welcome to "lunch money," where we tied together the best stories, interviews, and video and business news. i am matt miller, in for adam johnson. innovation, the final frontier? elon musk takes his space mission to wa

with me is our tech editor ari leavy as well as leslie picker in new york. skype is thea director of a financial resource company. francis, what is your top line take on these numbers? >> i look to a lot of the cloud companies focused on enterprise software. i look at the quarterly earnings , loss, and sales. for the most recent quarter, they had less than $40 million in revenue. their loss was more than $40 million. they are riding the wave of the cloud company hysteria. i think it is premature. >> i did speak to aaron leavy, the ceo of box, about the timing of the ipo. he has always said 2014 is the year. take a listen to a portion of that interview. >> ipo is on the path. >> you told us 2014. are you still on track for that? >> i have said words like it could happen that year. i think i would still use those words. >> he is one of the more colorful ceos in the tech community. ari, what do you make of the timing is to mark why now? >> they are clearly riding the wave. there is insatiable demand for anything cloud related. the company is growing by leaps an

with me here is ari leavy. who is mark penn? a longtime political strategist.ceo of a pr firm. a big global pr firm. a longtime friend of the clintons. worked on hillary's campaign, and failed campaign in 2008. he was brought on at microsoft to help a strategy which is the rock term that can mean anything. he is best known for do not get led campaign. >> does he have what it takes to refocus microsoft's business strategy? >> it has been important to microsoft. how to market and tell the message. you could see this in the shakeup that this is something they really wanted to get right and do it the way that satya nadella want it done. >> some of the biggest names we have become familiar are on the chopping block. of some of thenk big departures? >> it seems pretty evident it is linked to the whole services. he was one of the finalists. he was a big name. he was a longtime cisco executive eric he was a ceo of skype. -- cisco executive. he was a ceo of skype. be something else. regardless, if he is someone that you were considering as a ceo and he is leaving the co