>> my good friend, john hovan, republican from north dakota, from an energy state, been working togetherdependent upon coal-fired electricity for the next 20 to 30 years, even their own energy department says that, shouldn't we be finding the technology that does it better and cleaner? if you're going to have it sitting on the side line, quit talk being it and start puttingg it into use. so this is a use it or lose it type, put it out there, let it start making, finding ways to find new technology to make it better and be able to use coal that we're dependent upon and going to need for quite some time in a better fashion. >> sure. we got plenty of it. all right. joe manchin, always a pleasure. thank you for joining us today from washington. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. straight ahead, is it time for arnold schwarzenegger to retire from action movies? what about more politics? brian goes one on one with him coming up next. >>> and if you don't believe in ghosts, this video might change your mind. a security camera