cannibal istic hannibal lecter is in a tv series.most successful feature villains in the lead role including "the sopranos" with tony soprano. ever seen that? "house of cards" with frank underwood and of course hannah from" girls." probably the moth ruthless ever because she always naked. tom, you are immoral less. is this trend more prevalent over time? >> i am a moral list. darth vader i sim -- sympathize with. the ships were cleaner. he was like luke in the long hair is like i will never join you. why not? he is your family. he is your father. join him. >> spoiler alert. >> what was he upset about? he seemed to be running the universe well. >> remi, you made a career out of defending villains. >> i represent the accused. >> if that's what you call them. >> yes, they are the accused. this is an interesting story that is not new. it is as old as -- people like to root for the underdog and the people we don't think will succeed and the villain. if othelo was written today it would be called yago. >> that's good, very good. i think th