and our first movie we did together, that we wrote together was produced by james l. brooks, who was our mentor and sort of taught us everything about how to make a script, how to edit a movie and, for me, how to function as a person in the movie industry. i mean, to this day, when i know i'm just doing what i saw jim do in so many situations, i saw him be strong and clear and i just saw him kind of get it, and i said, oh, i see, so this is how it's done. so those kind of relationships mean quite a lot. >> charlie: martin scorsese is a great admirer of yours. you know that, obviously. >> well, i mean, he's been kind to me. >> charlie: he said in his own words how much he admires you. is there a relationship there? >> there's a relationship with me idolizing him. [ laughter ] i mean, over the years -- he's the one person i can think of who will screen movies on film and every now and then over the years i've gotten the invitation to go over and see what he's looking at that day and it's always a little master class, two movies -- and one of the films i made we made in india.