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vincent keane. guest: david, very good question, and is a challenge that many health centers it turns on a day-to-day basis. the answer to your question, david, will depend a lot of times on the state in which that person resides, but in terms of unity in the community health 's responsibility obviously is for the whole person and for their long-term continuity of care. so a patient comes in to our health center, is diagnosed with cancer, here in d.c., thankfully, we have a system. medicaid is generous. we also have a city run program called the alliance. generally speaking we can get that person into a hospital for diagnosis, procedure, and treatment. i am not saying that is true in every state. each state, each health center has to come up with with the continuity of care land. a lot of times these are based on the generosity of hospitals who are willing to kind of make their resources available, but here in d.c., if you came in and would becovered, it our responsibility at least to try to connect
vincent keane. guest: david, very good question, and is a challenge that many health centers it turns on a day-to-day basis. the answer to your question, david, will depend a lot of times on the state in which that person resides, but in terms of unity in the community health 's responsibility obviously is for the whole person and for their long-term continuity of care. so a patient comes in to our health center, is diagnosed with cancer, here in d.c., thankfully, we have a system. medicaid is...
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the specific proposal has been withdrawn by commissioner keane. the next item on the agenda is the complaint number 04 -- >>> i never met mr. keane, but i'm glad i him tonight because that is the kind of person that will help us move forward, not backwards. i'm [speaker not understood]. i'm one of the ministers at dr. brown's third baptist church. >> thank you, reverend lewis. [multiple voices] >> i told you when you nominated me for that position [speaker not understood]. >> i just didn't know how [speaker not understood] you were. okay. [multiple voices] >> the next item on the agenda is ethics complaint 04-14 303, ray hartz versus luis herrera, city librarian. mr. herrera. >> mr. hartz is not here and did not request a continuance. so, i'm assuming we're just going to go ahead. >> we're going to go forward. thank you for your patience, sir. >> sure, thank you very much, commissioners. i'm luis herrera, city librarian. i trust you received my letter that gave background on this matter regarding showing cause for the sunshine ordinance task force
the specific proposal has been withdrawn by commissioner keane. the next item on the agenda is the complaint number 04 -- >>> i never met mr. keane, but i'm glad i him tonight because that is the kind of person that will help us move forward, not backwards. i'm [speaker not understood]. i'm one of the ministers at dr. brown's third baptist church. >> thank you, reverend lewis. [multiple voices] >> i told you when you nominated me for that position [speaker not understood]....
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vincent keane. host: this month marks the fourth anniversary of the affordable care act. we will look at one aspect of the american health-care system and that is a community health center. we will be live from unity, on your screen there. it is a couple of miles from the capital. that segment begins in about an hour. we want to start off this morning by discussing this new study out by the media insight project. it is called the personal news cycle. here's a little bit from this study. contrary to conventional media about consumption, and new survey finds that the nature of news itself -- the idea of the so-called filter bubble. there are relatively few differences by generation, party or socioeconomic status in the level of interest with which people report following different topics. we want to learn from you this morning as we go through the papers in this first hour on the "washington journal" how you get your news. where'd you get your news and how do you get it marco you can also make a comme
vincent keane. host: this month marks the fourth anniversary of the affordable care act. we will look at one aspect of the american health-care system and that is a community health center. we will be live from unity, on your screen there. it is a couple of miles from the capital. that segment begins in about an hour. we want to start off this morning by discussing this new study out by the media insight project. it is called the personal news cycle. here's a little bit from this study....
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and last month, commissioner keane asked about the bdo referrals. and i just want to give you an update on those first one and two have already been litigated. and in favor of the city. and the bdr is conducting collection efforts at this point and the third one, will be, is set for the litigation but has not come to court yet. >> okay. >> and then, i just wanted to make sure that the commission knows because of the comments that have been made, statements of economic interest and the section seven and i don't have a comment on that but under the state law, we are allowed to assess late fines for people who violate, but we have no enforcement authority over form 700 and their constant, the ethics commission can cannot investigate or take action on those, we have to defer them to the state. >> so we can levy five, and i don't understand. >> when the people file late, we can levy late fines, but if people falsify the documents, and don't report the things that they are supposed to or refused to file and that is out of our hands. >> okay, that is all t
and last month, commissioner keane asked about the bdo referrals. and i just want to give you an update on those first one and two have already been litigated. and in favor of the city. and the bdr is conducting collection efforts at this point and the third one, will be, is set for the litigation but has not come to court yet. >> okay. >> and then, i just wanted to make sure that the commission knows because of the comments that have been made, statements of economic interest and...
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. >> commissioner keane? here. >> commissioner andrews? >> here. >> everyone is present and accounted for, thank you. >> the first order of business will be the public comment on any matters appearing before our commission today, whether they are on the agenda or not. >> there is something that i have to do. >> commissioners ray hartz, director of san francisco open government. on this screen is a list of 16 orders of determination issued by the sunshine ordinance task force in cases i have filed. and that 16 out of 21 cases that i have one a success rate of 76 percent. and now, i will ask you or the commissioners to take a guess how many of these have been enforced? i think that you all know, you just don't want to admit the fact is zero. not one. what i think is particularly interesting is the fact that all of these cases sent, of all of the cases sent to the ethics commission you have dismissed every one. the members of this body have absolutely no interest in helping the citizens of san francisco but only in protecting the city against
. >> commissioner keane? here. >> commissioner andrews? >> here. >> everyone is present and accounted for, thank you. >> the first order of business will be the public comment on any matters appearing before our commission today, whether they are on the agenda or not. >> there is something that i have to do. >> commissioners ray hartz, director of san francisco open government. on this screen is a list of 16 orders of determination issued by the...
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. >> commissioner keane do you have any questions? >> yes. i don't want to keep -- i don't want to repeat myself, but that's simply not good enough. i don't know what the city attorney told you, but whoever told you that you were okay on this, they're wrong. you cannot discriminate on the basis of subject matter or content. the viewpoint, you're not discriminating. mr. hartz is saying, you don't like our viewpoint and therefore -- i don't buy that. we'll take that off the table. >> we're not discriminating on content. ~ commissioner, we're not discriminating on content. >> the presenters you invite who are presenting their content, they are using the equipment. the presenters who are -- the other presenters whom you -- that you allow, staff and individuals or individuals and organizations invited to make presentations to the commission. that's your language. there are individuals and organizations invited to make presentations to the commission. they are allowed to use the equipment. the rest of the public isn't. >> and it isn't during public
. >> commissioner keane do you have any questions? >> yes. i don't want to keep -- i don't want to repeat myself, but that's simply not good enough. i don't know what the city attorney told you, but whoever told you that you were okay on this, they're wrong. you cannot discriminate on the basis of subject matter or content. the viewpoint, you're not discriminating. mr. hartz is saying, you don't like our viewpoint and therefore -- i don't buy that. we'll take that off the table....
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keane, what is the definition the official definition of a community health
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mail that came to national attention after he was left speechless and surprised by captain robbie keane combine the cake could show tonight the eight euros in science team. what do i decided to rather go when i got outta the day that i have no title like this. and on top. the city you should never meet your heroes in talks with hello name is deeply came face to face with robbie keane on the neatly toward show about christmas but first encounter he was lost for words but he has since found a mole of the things that aren't shy of qualifying for the euro rose but i think at least common prayer the second with colin campbell goes to high teens as an accent as thick as thieves. one of the month i'm not. last night he was parking his bike is getting ready to go again as he prepared to be a mascot for the irish team for this evening's match and another chance to see the labels to talk to you from heroic in to kill them from ca tomorrow robbie keane will be playing nevertheless don't seems happy. they say since. and they did they. auto school tonight to watch the bench he just was. no power and
mail that came to national attention after he was left speechless and surprised by captain robbie keane combine the cake could show tonight the eight euros in science team. what do i decided to rather go when i got outta the day that i have no title like this. and on top. the city you should never meet your heroes in talks with hello name is deeply came face to face with robbie keane on the neatly toward show about christmas but first encounter he was lost for words but he has since found a...
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keane has withdrawn the specific resolution, but i do think it's worth some reconduction on the policy issue. [speaker not understood] would you like to introduce the matter? >> yes. as a matter of policy, this is given staff a great deal of discomfort. the idea that we would revisit a settlement agreement we think contradicts the purpose of the settlement agreement. in particular, the settlement agreement itself contains language that says a stipulation will be the final disposition of the matter. there is certainly language that can be put into settlement agreements when we bring them before the commission and perhaps the commission doesn't think they go far enough. but to actually reopen them obviously recreate aid hornet's net in a specific case here. but we also think if the commission were to do this in any case that it would be very difficult to negotiate future settlement agreements because the respondents would very clearly say, why should i enter a settlement if i know you can just bring it up again some day? and, so, that's the crux of our concerns. and setting aside the ind
keane has withdrawn the specific resolution, but i do think it's worth some reconduction on the policy issue. [speaker not understood] would you like to introduce the matter? >> yes. as a matter of policy, this is given staff a great deal of discomfort. the idea that we would revisit a settlement agreement we think contradicts the purpose of the settlement agreement. in particular, the settlement agreement itself contains language that says a stipulation will be the final disposition of...
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keane has withdrawn the specific resolution, but i do think it's worth some reconduction on the policy issue. [speaker not understood] would you like to introduce the matter? >> yes. as a matter of policy, this is given staff a great deal of discomfort. the idea that we would revisit a settlement agreement we think contradicts the purpose of the settlement agreement.
keane has withdrawn the specific resolution, but i do think it's worth some reconduction on the policy issue. [speaker not understood] would you like to introduce the matter? >> yes. as a matter of policy, this is given staff a great deal of discomfort. the idea that we would revisit a settlement agreement we think contradicts the purpose of the settlement agreement.
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and another red line from obama that no one will enforce. >> to jack keane now.e cares. do they? >> i do think people care. the fact of the matter is i am somewhat stunned and disappointed by the president's comment. if you understand what he is saying as a result of invasion the only thing sanctions is freezing russian leaders assets. he said if further interference in ukraine we will think about imposing other sanctions. so score one for putin. his calculation of not much being on on the invasion is right. >> if you go after be his advisors, does putin care? >> no, absolutely not. he cares about his country and the fact he has economic issue. it is an oil and gas economy to bebegg begin. with the sanctions the would take time to play out, but we could get started. >> who makes the next move? >> it is up to putin. we just played our card. he is going to annex crimea, that is decision is done. and eastern ukraine is a real issue. we are para troopers occupying a gas facil taity in ukraine. and there are agents causing unrest that would justify another invasion li
and another red line from obama that no one will enforce. >> to jack keane now.e cares. do they? >> i do think people care. the fact of the matter is i am somewhat stunned and disappointed by the president's comment. if you understand what he is saying as a result of invasion the only thing sanctions is freezing russian leaders assets. he said if further interference in ukraine we will think about imposing other sanctions. so score one for putin. his calculation of not much being on...
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keane, where does your funding come from? guest: well, today our funding, and this is true of community health centers nationwide, we started off actually in the earlier days receiving federal funds. we still receive direct grants to provide care to the uninsured, to those who are at a certain level of poverty. but most health centers now, as well as getting their federal grants, they also use medicaid, they use medicare. a lot of health centers actually because of the need -- some people will pay based on their ability to pay. in the case of unity, we receive revenues from medicaid. the district has been very generous in medicaid coverage unlike several states. so we receive money from medicaid, just like any -- it's attached to the individual. we receive money from medicare. we receive money from the patients themselves. but we also receive several special grants. for instance, we provide health care services in the d.c. department of corrections, and that's based on a grant that we received from the district government. in
keane, where does your funding come from? guest: well, today our funding, and this is true of community health centers nationwide, we started off actually in the earlier days receiving federal funds. we still receive direct grants to provide care to the uninsured, to those who are at a certain level of poverty. but most health centers now, as well as getting their federal grants, they also use medicaid, they use medicare. a lot of health centers actually because of the need -- some people will...
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joining us now is former army vice chief of staff, general jack keane.o fox news military analyst. general, it's great to have you with us or you is that your belief that mr. obama would be open to putting the missile defense shield in czechoslovakia? >> i suspect not. i think that he moves very cautiously in this kind of crisis confrontation. i think he really has to step up fundamentally. what we are seeing is the global power politics and a test of wills. >> we should oust him from the g-8 and oust him from the g20. that would bother him. and then there are decisive things we can do away on the crisis. we could also accelerate georgia into nato, which is moving slowly towards that end and we could put it on a fast track. there's things we can do about syria. >> and putin should pay a price for what he has done. even if he moves away, there should be a price exerted for this. lou: the administration was caught by his move on the ukraine and there was scuttlebutt of all sorts after the close of the olympics. it seems the united states government was not
joining us now is former army vice chief of staff, general jack keane.o fox news military analyst. general, it's great to have you with us or you is that your belief that mr. obama would be open to putting the missile defense shield in czechoslovakia? >> i suspect not. i think that he moves very cautiously in this kind of crisis confrontation. i think he really has to step up fundamentally. what we are seeing is the global power politics and a test of wills. >> we should oust him...
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joining us now a retired four-star general, general jack kean. general, great to have you with us. is it -- it is your belief that mr. obama would be open now to putting the missile defense shield in poland, in czecho slovakia. >> i suspect no, he moves cautiously in this confrontation. and i think, really, he has to step up here. fundamentally, what we're seeing here is 21st sergery global power politics played on a world stage and it's a test of wills. putin understands that, he understands the psychology of it. we don't seem to grasp it. the fact of the matter is, we should be doing things, reputational things to him, not the united states not going to the g-8, we should oust him from the g-8 and oust him from the g-20. that would pow bother him. you just mentioned the missile defense, we could accelerate georgia into nato, which is moving slowly towards that end, but we could put it on a fast track. and there are things that we could do about syria, recommits ourselves to syria, where putin is heavily engaged. then of course, as other guests have talked about, there's much we c
joining us now a retired four-star general, general jack kean. general, great to have you with us. is it -- it is your belief that mr. obama would be open now to putting the missile defense shield in poland, in czecho slovakia. >> i suspect no, he moves cautiously in this confrontation. and i think, really, he has to step up here. fundamentally, what we're seeing here is 21st sergery global power politics played on a world stage and it's a test of wills. putin understands that, he...
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general jack keane welcome. >> thank you, lou.ou: remarkable that president chose to describe russia as a regional power. what is your reaction to that statement. and what the president was trying to get at? >> i think he is trying to downplay the crisis itself. this is very serious. what putin is doing, he is challengeing the international order established as a result of collapse of soviet union, and accept a new russian order as part of that. and eventually this is a threat to nato. this is a very serious crisis. we have not seen all the way back to world war ii. lou: this president, and this administration seems to be off-hand in their dismissal of the threat poseed for europe, for e.u. particularly for countries on the eastern border of europe. and now we're watching the president, tomorrow he will meet with the nato secretary-general, where is this going? there is no sense, the president had a chance to communicate to the world today, what he was thinking what the plans were, what he would like to see, and there was no illum
general jack keane welcome. >> thank you, lou.ou: remarkable that president chose to describe russia as a regional power. what is your reaction to that statement. and what the president was trying to get at? >> i think he is trying to downplay the crisis itself. this is very serious. what putin is doing, he is challengeing the international order established as a result of collapse of soviet union, and accept a new russian order as part of that. and eventually this is a threat to...
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. >> joining us now retired four-star army general, general jack kean and fox news military analyst. what is your reaction when you hear the vice president of the united states making comments as he did today? >> well, if we had not been hearing rhetoric like this for the last year and half in various other situations and certainly the last three weeks, dealing with crimea and the russians, you take it seriously, but it's hard now in the face of what has taken place to take those comments seriously and i think, our nato allies have a big question mark certainly about the steadfastness of the united states and its willingness to commit to their security and their sovereignty given the events of the last three weeks. >> we have -- i shouldn't say -- this administration has an agreement with angela merkel the chancellor of germany, to move ahead with sanctions, although that's unclear. but nato itself seems threatened here because they have played no role in the president's rhetoric nor any of his directives in suggesting of consequences to vladimir putin, where is nato now, which has a
. >> joining us now retired four-star army general, general jack kean and fox news military analyst. what is your reaction when you hear the vice president of the united states making comments as he did today? >> well, if we had not been hearing rhetoric like this for the last year and half in various other situations and certainly the last three weeks, dealing with crimea and the russians, you take it seriously, but it's hard now in the face of what has taken place to take those...
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we'll talk to kt mcfarland and general jack keane moments away.americans call for action there could be little that could be done. the brits are saying no military action is being discussed. here are the options. hitting russia in the wallet. they plan to freeze assets of various assets and institutions. there are travel restrictions, banning visas. the u.s. and other g8 nations suspended plans to hold their june meeting in sochi. they say russia's actions go against the principles and values on which they operate. bill: here is ukraine, the capital city of kiev is where it all started. the action is down here in crimea. it's on the black sea. and that's critical. this is what we believe is happening inside ukraine. five major cities, sevastopol is where the russian navy has been headquartered. all five of these towns we are told have been under the control of the russians. the blue shade seems to favor by a slim majority or overwhelming majority, loyalty to russia. the red has don't reverse. them have gone with europe in the last eviction. these
we'll talk to kt mcfarland and general jack keane moments away.americans call for action there could be little that could be done. the brits are saying no military action is being discussed. here are the options. hitting russia in the wallet. they plan to freeze assets of various assets and institutions. there are travel restrictions, banning visas. the u.s. and other g8 nations suspended plans to hold their june meeting in sochi. they say russia's actions go against the principles and values...
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. >> commissioner keane? >> here. >> the executive director has an announcement. >> i just want to take a moment to welcome the new deputy director jesse minarde. he brings a wealth of experience to this position and we're delighted to have him. he has experience as both a business attorney and political attorney. he worked at the political practices division in sacramento. [speaker not understood]. he's a graduate of hastings college of law and has a master's degree from harvard's school of kennedy government. a long list of accomplishments. as i said, fortunate to have him. welcome. >> welcome, mr. minarde. we're fortunate to have you and look forward to working with you. the first item on the agenda are minutes of the board of directors meeting of march 20, 2013~ [speaker not understood]. >> commissioners, my name is harlan kelly and i am the general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission. thank you for allowing me to come before you. i have a previously scheduled engagement, so, i'm goin
. >> commissioner keane? >> here. >> the executive director has an announcement. >> i just want to take a moment to welcome the new deputy director jesse minarde. he brings a wealth of experience to this position and we're delighted to have him. he has experience as both a business attorney and political attorney. he worked at the political practices division in sacramento. [speaker not understood]. he's a graduate of hastings college of law and has a master's degree...
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melissa: let's bring back andrew keane at the cme. what do you think of this budget and what do you think market reaction over the long term to it? >> i agree with the congressman about the minimum wage. that should be done at state level. i was born in wisconsin. cost of living in wisconsin is way less than it necessary chicago. i think that is a big thing. the other thing the congressman, i looked at notes he was talking about, doing budget every two years as opposed to every year. uncertainty is bad. if they do this in the house, every single year i don't want to look in december and january worry about the budget where the stock market will go because can they get a deal done last minute and push it down the road. two budgets every two years and instead of one year where the congressman talked about before i think that would be a great idea as well. melissa: one of the big wildcards in the budget what happens if interest rates go up? obviously our payments get much more higher and much more out of control. what is your view on int
melissa: let's bring back andrew keane at the cme. what do you think of this budget and what do you think market reaction over the long term to it? >> i agree with the congressman about the minimum wage. that should be done at state level. i was born in wisconsin. cost of living in wisconsin is way less than it necessary chicago. i think that is a big thing. the other thing the congressman, i looked at notes he was talking about, doing budget every two years as opposed to every year....
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driving many african economies and is one with huge potential as this banana growing collected in keane's discovered the first major order of the season came in from the capital concrete two days ago. it was for two tonnes of bananas. harvesting has been underway in the semi agricultural cooperated since early morning. farmers first started working together ten years ago. these days the cooperative has two hundred and one wonders and is one of the region's main banana supply. the success of the venture has much to do with the drive and ambition of the nature hike and see local time. her goal for this year is to sell more than ten tonnes of fruit. free money once you reach the production rate o of colonial keys to increase income from banana production and establish new demands on the international market. the corporate it has had some outside help and italian and she'll respond to the storage facility in the park to do it. let it the facility serves as a place to store the creek and trying conditions. but it also allows traders to come and inspect the parties before they commit to buying
driving many african economies and is one with huge potential as this banana growing collected in keane's discovered the first major order of the season came in from the capital concrete two days ago. it was for two tonnes of bananas. harvesting has been underway in the semi agricultural cooperated since early morning. farmers first started working together ten years ago. these days the cooperative has two hundred and one wonders and is one of the region's main banana supply. the success of the...
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to be on those but this has been suffering since its inception of the dead dumb luck is responsible keane kenyan people. re the new plenty enough our mother's insistence. so john what has already been proven to be a urbanization item would deny them thousand and two. also tried some of the soapbox he added. bendis to stardom as ancient rome and letting politics and bondage. dumas was a key clue that the dj on the hot sun on the shooting in nineteen seventy one nobody should want. the attack and he shouts delighted in the country. it didn't feed him by his mentors and intimate shows. just a second time in seven but this time instead of a tinkle mexican hat despite claims from the administration of the situation inside the consulate. joe takes high pride could end up in stunts in the province is starting to make ends meet. that hundreds if not had a student of state of needing treatment in the house. doesn't this to happen to nikki i need science magazines. maybe that is established that the job he didn't step on something and to provide anything. i got into the box as many as thirty seven
to be on those but this has been suffering since its inception of the dead dumb luck is responsible keane kenyan people. re the new plenty enough our mother's insistence. so john what has already been proven to be a urbanization item would deny them thousand and two. also tried some of the soapbox he added. bendis to stardom as ancient rome and letting politics and bondage. dumas was a key clue that the dj on the hot sun on the shooting in nineteen seventy one nobody should want. the attack and...
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general jack keane and here. and what do you make about the latest troop movements?beyond crimea? >> they have been there a couple week and we has built them up. the russian military is a mere shadow of the former soviet union. but the ukraine troops are no match. when you move the troops up the boarder, you have to look at their intent. it is likely to want to occupy eastern ukraine. they lied about georgia and they lied about crimea and now they all telling hagel they are conducting an exercise but they are there for one reason: waiting for the word from putin to go into the eastern ukraine. rail, gas, land transport for all food stuff go through eastern ukraine. they want to dominate that. and they have some people in that area, not like in crimea, but people that have ties there. >> we heard a message from david cameron. do you think putin is trying to get a military response? if so, what would that look like? can the ukraine troops stand up against ukraine? >> i would not take cameron's statement as strong. there is no much we could be doing in terms of ramping
general jack keane and here. and what do you make about the latest troop movements?beyond crimea? >> they have been there a couple week and we has built them up. the russian military is a mere shadow of the former soviet union. but the ukraine troops are no match. when you move the troops up the boarder, you have to look at their intent. it is likely to want to occupy eastern ukraine. they lied about georgia and they lied about crimea and now they all telling hagel they are conducting an...
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this day in the science season keane is expected to meet parliamentary leaders and prime minister mark rudd top on the day. she will attend the global nuclear security senate and the headache elated visit france germany and belgium. the show include the event that to the headquarters of the unesco in paris on thursday. it's also a juicy bit of the eu headquarters in brussels. the judge on cctv earlier we spoke about reporting on the me in that age he told the president she is looking to enhance bilateral ties with the netherlands the presence of the tribes and then on and on saturday afternoon there was wall to wall divided that's the way of adding something to add to the voting to mention their boys to serve dinner as well as exams dance and folk dance with her and senate presidency clinton keith second. if it's meant to be well thought out to god and his mom brother and to also attend the time and its economic paul wrote in his rival statements presents he was not meant to understand the importance of common in europe. instead he's looking forward to an end to major principles want a
this day in the science season keane is expected to meet parliamentary leaders and prime minister mark rudd top on the day. she will attend the global nuclear security senate and the headache elated visit france germany and belgium. the show include the event that to the headquarters of the unesco in paris on thursday. it's also a juicy bit of the eu headquarters in brussels. the judge on cctv earlier we spoke about reporting on the me in that age he told the president she is looking to enhance...
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and i think where i agree with commissioner keane to a certain extent is that if you have an item on the agenda that you are allowing some outside party to use your a-v equipment because say it's your architect or whatever else it is. if somebody in the public came to you and said, we would like to in response to what they're going to say, we would like to show how the drawing should be different. the only way now they can do it is come in with hard copy or something and hold it up and put it in the record. and it would seem to me that if you invite somebody in support and somebody comes to you and says, we would like to be invited even though we're not going to support you, no, we won't invite you because you aren't going to be supporting us. >> i understand what you're saying, commissioner. it's not a matter of supporting. it's not taking a stance on any given issue. it's simply providing the information that then the commission lib rates on. >> so, can i ask -- >> well, first of all, i want to bring this up as a former member of the library commission. first, i think we're being m
and i think where i agree with commissioner keane to a certain extent is that if you have an item on the agenda that you are allowing some outside party to use your a-v equipment because say it's your architect or whatever else it is. if somebody in the public came to you and said, we would like to in response to what they're going to say, we would like to show how the drawing should be different. the only way now they can do it is come in with hard copy or something and hold it up and put it...