has to watch out. >> ladies and gentlemen, lee mcintire. thank you so much for joining us. [applause] go enjoy your lunch. here's the mustard. i will hand your diet coke. coca-cola. i'm just joking. i love pepsi, too. pepsi got really upset once when we had too many cokes around. we love pepsi-cola. now, i'm going to reproduce myself. i am steve clemons of the atlantic. person who ise a been supportive of various things you listed as try to do on the economy front but also my previous with the american foundation, explain a little bit about richard vague was a venture capitalist, businessman. he has been thinking a lot about that. not government debt, but private sector debt. he and i have been sort of plodding along to say, is washington, d.c. and our capitals around much of the world focused on the wrong part of the debt equation and what can be done about it? richard vague, more than anyone else i know, is the world leading expert on debt because he was the guy who helped create so much of it. in the sense that -- i'm not joking. you think i'm joking. richard vague was t