into the cost of just upgrading to 8.8 or even looking to other vendors that are out there like peoplesoft who also have higher ed system. so, i just started asking around. one reason we were given. a new system could take-two years and we don't have that kind of time. our problems were urgent. but this conflicts because you signed a five-year agreement. another reason given was, well, we might not be around in two years so the accjc might sanction us and wonder what we're doing making these big systems investments. that's another failure in logic. because why would accjc sanction the college for expecting to continue to serve its 85,000 students? another head scratcher. (applause) >>> why didn't we even solicit a bid for a new it system? one person without even consulting knowledgeable people about it within city college of san francisco should not be making these no-bid contract decisions with private companies that on the surface don't have the best long-term interest of the students and the faculty at heart. (applause) >> thank you. >>> and i have handouts. >> thank you. next speaker,