let's talk to timothy schneider, a professor of history and the author of several books on russia andhe former soviet union. thank you for being with us. i want to get your thoughts on the news today that russia moved behind crimea's borders and grabbed a natural gas facility there in eastern ukraine. is this the beginning of a larger push into eastern ukraine by russia? >> it certainly looks that way. although i wouldn't say it's the beginning. for the last couple of weeks there has been regular examples of bus loads, mersan airies penetrating into the city, provoking violence in places like donetsk. the overall strategy is to create the appearance of ipp stability using russian forces and use more russian forces as, so to speak, the solution to the prop. where this will go is hard to say. i have the impression that vladimir putin is still improvising. >> do you think vladimir putin might, indeed, try to grab more of ukraine and try to split the country in half? >> the problem with trying to predict russia is that decisions are made by one person, and consultation with two or three o

. >> earlier aspoke with timothy schneider. professor at yale university and the author of many books on russia and the soviet union. what happens if it passes? >> certain members of the russian population and leadership will begin to think of the occupation much crimea not in symbolic, but in pocket book and practical terms, and russians will think about the possibility of travel, the money they'll lose. putin will have to think about what citizens think. it will be a long time coming. meanwhile, we have tens of thousands in the streets. when people add practical and financial motivations to the moral ones, we say see more political unrest. what will happen on monday will have a lot of dim exceptions. >> the -- dimensions. >> the sun of the former soviet leader says it will be better in vladimir putin does annex crimea. >> it will be better for them to be part of ukraine. now when they are squared of the western ukrainians who took power, who became tough and brutal, they don't want to do this, and they don't want to fight wit

timothy mcveigh. months later he would bomb the government building in oklahoma city. >> he had selected steve schneider, his number one lieutenant and wayne martin, their harvard-educated attorney to come out and talk to our representative. the tension was extremely high. you could quite literally feel the crosshairs on you from the branch davidian compound as i'm sure steve schneider and wayne martin could feel from our tactical teams that had everybody covered. >> the meeting is positive. the fbi negotiators arranged to meet again in two days and deliver written assurances requested by koresh, but schneider abruptly cancels the second meeting. >> he indicated that david didn't think it was necessary, so i said, wait a minute, you don't want to come out or david doesn't want you to come out? he says, well, david doesn't think it's necessary. >> for agent sage, a heated phone conversation that follows provokes a crucial realization about koresh. >> at one point he is talking about my salvation and i said, david, i am absolutely confident in my salvation as a christian. and you, partner, are not in a po