the bathroom. >> see, on your version mr. pistorius, if you cared about reeva, you would have made sure that she hears you, that she's there. you didn't. >> i was sure she was there my lady. i had spoken to her shortly before when i got out of bed. just before i got out of bed she spoke to me. at that time i thought she was in the bed. >> that's why you changed 115. >> i don't know what 115 is. >> that's why in your plea explanation you said you spoke there. but not verification is that right? >> that's correct. >> why did you not say that in the -- >> i'm not sure my lady. explain. >> you wanted the court to understand you knew she was on the bed. you invented a discussion with her. >> i didn't invent the discussion with her my lady. >> can during your bail implication, you did nothing we believe to invent a discussion. isn't that? >> i didn't invent any discussion with my bail or now my lady. >> you see mr. pistorius, the nature of the discussion before you got up is such that at least you though

i'm in the bathroom.'t imagine that the judge listening to this doesn't bring her real world experience into the courtroom and think, but why didn't reeva ever say anything? >> well, but -- here's the thing. there's a great answer to your question. >> are you sure? >> yeah. and here's -- not what happened. the point is, i'm oscar pistorius. i don't have to prove to you what happened. that's your job, mr. prosecutor, madam prosecutor, and you're the one who has to come up with a better story than mine. it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. poke all the holes want in my story, you better have a good one yourself, in fact, a better one, and i actually am surprised by a lot of the things that he's saying, because despite and above and beyond what's been in the record already, he is laying out that he was aware of reeva. he did call out to her. he was -- it wasn't that he just ignored it and it's convenient, and then the emotion. which way that plays. that's a fair point of suspicion right now. this is unusu

then he goes into the bathroom. he shouts in the bathroom and shouts at the intruder.no time, no one responds. if he's yelling at the bathroom, she says, it's me, i'm not bathroom, calm down. >> i agree with you. up until the point where he just said it for the first time, and i'm going to wrap this segment only with this refuting. he's in that passageway. i don't know if we have that image. he's in that passageway, screaming, there's someone in the house. put yourself in her shoes for a moment. she's in the bathroom now terrified, thinking he's going to handle it. not, i need to scream to the intruder that i'm here. the only way i could argue that point. just look, if you will, there's that passageway that leads from the bed, around the corner and into the bathroom. >> he goes to the bed though and gets his gun. >> one quick additional fact. he knows, by the way, she gave 252-year sentence to a convicted rapist. you know why? because he didn't express remorse on the witness stand for his crime. >> well, there you go, again. >> that's her sentencing history. >> he's be

the most expensive part -- the marble bathrooms. >> the bathroom has become a point of competition.f new hotels has big bathrooms that sparkle. we wanted the bathrooms to -- >> i noticed there was a television. >> every bathroom has a tv in it. >> one thing i had to ask is do you test the mattresses out? >> i have tested many. my wife and i have stayed in this hotel. it is comfortable. >> do you do this in every one of your hotels? >> we have lots of renovations. we bought a hotel in hollywood, california. we finished up a renovation. and nashville, tennessee, $12 million on a new lobby and restaurant. we did all of the guest bathrooms. >> what is it like? you walk into a room and say yes, yes, no, no? >> designers will show lots of different fabrics. i will ask to make it greener. make this bluer. can this be lighter? darker? we will be in their offices or they will be in our opposition owing different fabric swatches. >> do you have an idea that this is what the room will look like? >> i did, but it took us a few reiterations to get to the point that we as a company were happy. wh

now he's saying that he stood by the bathroom door. he screamed to this would be intruder and screamed back to reeva to call the police but he doesn't hear a response and then he shoots. the natural thing to do would be to wait and hear a response. now we know there wasn't an intruder. we know that it was reeva in the bathroom. wouldn't she have called out or responded. so a couple of things here, the question is does it line-up with the prosecutor's evidence and the other thing is is it believable? right now he's going unchallenged. he's talking about the events. but when the prosecutors get up and cross examine him, they'll test his story and i'm not sure if it's going to pass the test. >> thank you. for the second time in five years, president obama will be attending a memorial service at ft. hood. the president and first lady are headed to texas to remember the victims of last week's shooting spree. mr. obama is expected to make short remarks at the ceremony before traveling to houston for a pre-planned democratic fund-raisers. thr

>> that's correct -- into the bathroom?that's correct, my lady. >> and you had the bat in your hands, and whilst you're hitting the door, you were screaming? >> that's correct, my lady. >> now what happened to the gun? >> i placed the gun on the carpet, my lady. >> when? >> as i ran into the bathroom with the cricket bat. >> so you ran into the door with your shoulder, your shoulder charged the door with the gun in your hand? >> that's correct, my lady. >> pulled the door from the handle with the gun in your hand? >> my lady, if you look at where the door is positioned and because of my injury on my shoulder, i had the door at the handle and was shoulder charging with my left hand. the pistol was in my right. i couldn't open the door. i laid back, and i kicked the door. >> i'm wondering, what you're now saying is that you held the door by its handle with your left hand. >> that's correct, my lady -- >> gun in your right hand. >> that's correct, my lady. >> and you were then -- hit the door with your left shoulder? >> yes, m

wouldn't he know that it was her in the bathroom at that point? >> and especially you think about when he first woke up and got out of bed, wouldn't the natural reaction of anybody, is she right here next to me? where is she? >> prosecutors are going to hone in on that because yesterday he testified reeva was awake. all this time i thought that he said that she was asleep. so he went and got his gun, he went to check out the noise. now if she's awake, why wouldn't you turn to her and say, i thought i heard a noise. i'm going to check it out. not only does it have to match with the evidence, but it has to be believable. now he's largely gone unchallenged in his direct examination. but now his theory and all those facts and his version of events will be tested on cross-examination. >> may be a turning point at this point. thank you so much, faith jenkins, for your perspective, as always. >>> for the first time and for the second time i should say in five years, president obama will be attending a memorial service at fort hood. the president and firs

. >> at this point, i heard a wndow open in the bathroom. sounded like the window sliding open. >> what did you think at that moment? >> my lady, that's the moment that everything changed. i thought there was a burglar that was with gaining entrance in to my home. i think initially i froze and didn't know what to do. >> pistorius claims he was on his stumps and unstable as he walked back to the bed, a reached underneath and pulled the gun out of his holster. >> i thought someone gained access to my house and reeva just as i got out of my bed i whispered for reeva to get down. >> he crept through the bathroom hallway. >> at this point i was overcome with fear and started screaming for the intruders to get out of the house. i shouted for reeva to get on the floor. i shouted for her to phone the police. >> he said he then made his way to the bathroom. >> then i heard a noise from inside the toilet. what i perceived to be coming out of the toilet before i knew it i had fired four shots at the door. >> according to pistorius, he then returned to

. >> at this point i hear the window open in the bathroom and sound like the windows sliding open. >> what did you think at the time, mr. pistorius? >> the moment everything changed. i thought there was a burglar and initially i just froze, i did not know what to do. a. >> he claimed he was unstable as you walked back to the bed. reached underneath and pulled his gun out of his holster. >> just as i left my bed, i asked reeva to get down and call the police. >> he crept through a bedroom of weight. >> i was overcome with fear, started screaming. she was to get out of the house. i shall refer to get on the floor, for her to find the police. >> he said he made his way into the bathroom. >> i heard a noise from inside the toilet. i perceived to be somebody coming out of the toilet before i knew what i had fired four shots at the door. >> according to the pistorius he checked his band and the floor but there was no sign of steam cam. that is when he said he began to suspect the worst. >> the shots from the balcony, i'd put my prosthetic legs on and i ran as fast as i could back to the bat

having heard the bathroom door had been opened. while in that corridor, he screamed out further to reeva steenkamp, because she hadn't answered, to phone the police and get down and take cover, and then once he got into the bathroom itself, he stopped speaking, because, according to his version of events, he was worried that if he shouted out from inside the bathroom, whoever was inside the bathroom would know where to shoot at him from. he then heard a noise in the toilet enclosure and shot in a frenzied panic through the toilet door. he still wasn't convinced whether he had got the so-called intruders that he believed were behind that door, and was still very fearful that they might be on a ladder outside the open bathroom door, and that he and reeva were still in danger, and it was only sometime after that, he'd gone back into the bedroom, had gone to look for her. sat on the bed. realized she wasn't there. says he still thought maybe she was hiding under the bed or behind the curtains in the bedroom before the sick realization

just before i got to the wall in the bathroom i startopped shout.ught the person would know where i was and i could get shot. just before i got to the passage of the bathroom, i heard a door slam which could have only been the toilet door. i couldn't see into the bathroom at this point. i could hear the door slam. for me it was concern there was a person or people inside the bathroom at the time. >> mr. pistorius, if i may stop you. you spoke about the passage. for. the conditions in new york state are great for business. new york is ranked #2 in the nation for new private sector job creation. and now it's even better because they've introduced startup new york - dozens of tax-free zones where businesses pay no taxes for ten years. you'll get a warm welcome in the new new york. see if your business qualifies at startupny.com find yourself. in an accomodation... where you get to do... whatever it is that you love to do! booking.com booking.yeah! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announce

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we were in the bathroom on the 8th of april 2 days after the genocide started.r seven with three by four feet. the whole time we couldn't speak to each other. the man told us, he won't even tell his children that we were there. so he said be quiet, don't even flush the water of the bathroom unless somebody is flushing. >> we should point out. how many members of your family survived? >> only one brother who was outside of the country. >> out of a family how large? >> two brothers killed, my mom, my dad, grandma, uncle, aunt. it was like the end of the world. >> when did you know that they had died? >> three months later. i kind of suspected it when we were in the bathroom that we hear people talk about people outside this person died who had a master's degree or this man who was a teacher, my dad. and i just accept it. i thought they were making mistakes, i couldn't cry. i didn't have that permission. >> i want to read a quote from your book. you write that i knew in my heart and mind that i would always be tempted to feel anger, to find blame and hate whe but i

she went into the bathroom. she locked the door.lling at each other, she in the front of the toilet. you got fed up and blew her away. >> your four neighbors testified they heard a woman scream before the shots were fired. >> screaming from the other side of the bathroom door at oscar pistorius. >> that is key here. he was saying he was yelling for her to can call 9-1-1 and he never heard her respond even though she was in his version of events, just a few feet away in the bathroom. >> this guy is the biggest star of any kind in all of south africa. and there this one judge is with m lady, two advisers helping her with this and she'll decide whether the great, the oscar pistorius can rot in jail. that ain't easy. >> there's a lesser charm of culpable homocide. a shooting based on mentales seems clear here put the suspensional murder seems overwhelmingly proven by the prosecutor. there's no view of the evidence that supports oscar pistorius' version that for no rope he -- for no reason he fired into the bathroom thinking an intruder

still, he tells the packed courtroom he was convinced a burglar was coming out of the bathroom toward him and he pulled the trigger. >> before i knew it, i had fired four shots at the door. >> the 27-year-old claims it wasn't until after that moment he realized what he had done and used a bat to break down the bathroom door. >> i was crying out to the lord to help me, i was screaming, crying for reeva. >> he will be back on the stands for another emotional day of testimony tomorrow. >>> happening now, former secretary of state hillary clinton is at the mascone center in san francisco scheduled to deliver the keynote address at the marketing nation summit. the summit addresses the marketing cause companies face and how the software can make a difference. her speech begins at 12:30 p.m. there is a showdown at the state capital. lawmakers are considering a bill to force seaworld san diego to stop using killer whales in the shows and release them from their tanks. this morning, activists from both sides spoke during public comment in sacramento. the bill was, intoed by the 2013 documentar

those bathroom scales are supporting you, holding you up. now when that car goes off the cliff, you looked at the bathroom scale, you wanna read the force of gravity, but what do you read, gang? you read zero because you and the bathroom scale are both falling together. and so you feel what you call weightlessness. in physics, we say there's an apparent weightlessness because there's really a gravity force acting on you, okay? it's like this. i got here this ball, okay? you're in an elevator. you're in an elevator and all of a sudden, you're holding a ball up like this and someone cuts the cable. and as you're falling down, it seems to you like someone cut the gravity off. watch this, i hold the ball in front of my face. i step off, let go and it's still in front of my face, okay? now why did it stay in front of my face? now if you wanna try this and you wanna really get the effect, jump off a very, very tall building and as you jump, --there's no gravity acting. there's plenty of gravity acting, okay? the thing is you're both falling togeth

the key is in the bathroom. a woman who gets up and goes to the bathroom in 3:00 in the morning.t women wouldn't close the door. even if they close it they wouldn't lock it. if that doesn't scream i'm trying to get away from my boyfriend i don't know what does. i think the evidence today if anything helped the prosecution. >> how about this emotional testimony that he's been crying, been throw incorporate up. you and i both know they are always sorry once they are caught. however if he's innocent there would be tears as well. >> well, yes. and is he being sincere in his pain and anguish and his sobbing? maybe. i wouldn't have a problem with believing that he really, really regrets that he killed his girlfriend. i think he loved her. but that doesn't really affect the case at all. if this was a jury trial it might affect it. jurors might believe a guy who loves his fwoifr so much that he's sobbing like that he couldn't have possibly killed her. that's the same viewpoint when the defense attorney dresses the defendant so nice and the jury goes no way. this is a judge. if i'm sittin

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program and the permit was to demolish the current bathroom that was 88 compliant. there was some work done to the exterior of the building and the permit was appealed and a new determination was made that based on the current state after an h e.r. was done the tennis site was a historic resource but the building itself no longer was. the board of appeals seemed to favor an outcome leaning towards rehabilitating the existing building go as opposed to tearing it down for a modern structure they continued the item for 90 days and ask do the rec and park department to further look at that and to continue to work with the community because there was some community preference for a rebuilding and smaller item 2529 post street was a variance in 2013 for the demolition and rebuild of restairs and decks that requested under e grossing ingress it was approved and that variance was appealed and the board of appeals denied it the building was the art it came to this commission in 2013, the dr didn't approve that it was an appeal 0 of the building permit and after some discussi

starbuck's there's n bathroom what are we doing >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. . no? our okay anything else who wants to make general public comment at this time seeing none, general public comment is closed. and we're on item 5 the consent calendar. >> let me make two announcements we had a request to take the beach la contract off the calendar inasmuch as this has been heard and approved unanimously and gone to the board of supervisors and approved there will be an opportunity to speak under jane kim under the consent calendar this didn't restrict anyone's opportunity to speak. i'm going to recommend we keep it on the consent calendar and ask the secretary to read the corrected verse of the resolution that had a few typos just to make sure we're dot all the i's and cross the t's >> so commissioners you have in front of you today an amended verse of the resolution for 5 g the academies is non-substantive there were spelling errors the word subject in the title and the word resolve further resolve and those have been corrected and the appropriately

i i mean, i have to say in looking at the appeal on paper it's just a bathroom and i think one of the public speakers said this i listens to what people said it's important to have to attention to all the historic buildings and the contributors to historic structures and bases i don't have the vocabulary but we need to preserve what we have with we see radical changes in the city and hold onto the good if this has the potential to be renovated i think the city needs to do its job in attempting to move in that direction >> i would come down on a middle ground which will probably have to make the same motion but if i had to pick and it was adorable between the two designs that were approved to me the traditional design looks better than the more than one it looks like an eyesore. the most offensive design is a complete disregard for the displacement it adds insult to injure in my mind. i have very big problems. i don't know that picking between the two designs is really the solution here. i don't know. i think it needs to go back >> or continue for more discussions from the neighborhood

whilst on the balcony a noise in the bathroom?ver on the balcony, milady. >> now, i've got a difficulty. and that is, that detectives said you went on to the balcony to bring the fan in. did you not say that? >> what i said in my -- forgive me. if i could have my bail transcript, i'd gladly read it. >> why are you referring to bail? how do you know i'm referring to your bail? >> that's what i understood from -- >> how would you understand that from my question? >> it's what i interpreted. >> why? why would you do that? >> i'm not sure. that's what i interpreted. >> you have to tell the court why you would interpret it as coming from your bail. you're sitting there, mr. pistorius, arguing, thinking of evidence. you're not answering questions. that is the danger in the evidence. >> milady, there's no danger in my evidence. i haven't lied. it's now put to me somebody saw me on the balcony. >> are you -- is that what you heard, that i said somebody saw you on the balcony? >> what i heard was -- if i'm mistaken, then i'm mistaken. what

. >> reporter: gun in hand, pistorius made his way to the bathroom without his prosthetic legs. terrifie terrified, he said, shouting at the intruder, warning his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. >> i shouted for reeva to get on floor. >> reporter: he never heard her answer. as reeva's mother averted her eyes pistorius said he heard a noise in the bathroom and opened fire. >> before i knew it i put four shots through the door. my ears were ringing. i couldn't hear anything. so i shouted, i kept on shouting for reeva to phone the police. >> reporter: she didn't answer. he returned to the bedroom looking for her in bed. >> i thought reeva was there. >> reporter: it was then he told the judge that he began to realize exactly what he had done. >> i think it was at that point, my lady, that it first dawned upon me that it could be reeva that was in there, in the bathroom. >> reporter: he said he put on his prosthetic legs and raced back to the bathroom this time with a cricket bat to pound the locked door open. >> at that point all i wanted to do was to look inside to see if it was reeva.

because we don't want you in our bathroom. okay. we don't. how about ever? >> sit-ins are extremely lazy. if you really care, stand. >> or run-in. >> i can't take you seriously. sit outside. >> they are trying to get out of class. that's all it is. >> they argue against fossil fuels, in the wintertime, that's what they use to heat their dorms. >> sleep-in. sleep-in. better. keep your mouth shut. sleep-in. >> i got to go. is the internet to blame for the decline of religious affiliations in the united states. some surprising new research reveals why we might be losing our faith. details next on "the five." [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children lauing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where th almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, whi

heard a noise in the bathroom, and realized someone was in there. he said, i concede, i didn't go in the balcony. this is important to evaluate, did he really believe that was an intruder there, or was it a fight? >> a really big change in testimony. some three weeks possibly to go, right? thanks. >>> and last week, we reported on those caring for america's wounded warriors. today, michelle obama and others linked arms to highlight new initiatives to help the families. including one from the defense department. >> the burden that these women and men bear for our country is real. and they shouldn't have to shoulder it alone. >> the third anniversary of the white house initiative, joining forces. >>> next here tonight, the church and its secrets. a megawedding and 2,000 couples. the first american cameras to record this phenomenon and the men and women behind it. when we're back in two minutes. cameras to record this phenomenon and the men and women behind it. when we're back in two minutes. when jake and i first set out on we ate anything. but in tim

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but in "the wedding planner," they had a bathroom on the set that was our office.hink she was, like, i'm going to go to the ladies room. i thought, i should probably do that, too. >> while i have time. >> and while she's going. i really didn't think of it that way, though. i just followed her in and we went into the bathroom like you do when you're girls. >> together. hoda and i like to do that, too. >> what happened when you were in there? >> then we went to the bathroom, and then we washed our hands, and then she left. she's a much faster peer than i am. she was in and out with quickness. >> did you want to say something to her in there? >> i don't know. it's weird, right? >> when ellen was in the bathroom, and i didn't know what to say. oh, my god. >> you said nothing. nice flow. that's all you can really say to anybody. don't you think? nice flow. compliment people, hoda. it will get you far. but then people -- a lot of people apparently say oh, you're so much prettier in person. >> yes. how are you supposed to respond to that? >> i don't know how to respond to

because we don't want you in our bathroom. okay. we don't. how about ever?s are extremely lazy. if you really care, stand. >> or run-in. >> i can't take you seriously. sit outside. >> they are trying to get out of class. that's all it is. >> they argue against fossil fuels, in the wintertime, that's what they use to heat their dorms. >> sleep-in. sleep-in. better. keep your mouth shut. sleep-in. >> i got to go. is the internet to blame for the decline of religious affiliations in the united states. some surprising new research reveals why we might be losing our faith. details next on "the five." i do a lot oresearch on angie's list before i do any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. >>> you probably the noticed the weather in new york just absolutely stinks. all right. surfing the web destroy your faith? the answer is yes. a study in massachusetts says there's been a dramatic drop in re

matt took me to the bathroom. were you holding on teach other? is that true? >> no. >> did she give you any reason to believe she had been assaulted? >> no. >> dishy at any point say -- shey at any point -- did any point say that she was hurt? >> no, she was fine. but the whole body language from ms. roberts -- >> she first told the police that it was a crock. she changed her story as well. basically said i do not know what happened. i was not with her. it was quite positive a could have happened. the defense says she changed her story because she entered to becausecy with nifong there was outstanding warrant for her arrest because of parole violation for sunday she had and shereduce the cost change her testimony. >> were issued today? -- where is she today? >> i have no idea. >> you suggest that without the record from the nifong file you would have not had a lot of the material. there was -- mike nifong's state bar hearing was in the spring of 2007. it went beyond the declaration of independence for roy cooper. in addition to that, 2 of the players who the n

so you had to kind of -- one tiny women's bathroom. >> are you serious?men's room but they seemed to be coming in and out okay. so developmentally they had to make a change. the united states senate is changing. we now have a bigger ladies room. >> congratulations! [applause] >> i can just imagine that coming to the floor and the republicans filibustering until they had to use it. [ laughter ] >> that's right. >> what where you have found the difference, being in the senate versus fighting from theouts, what does it feel like to fight from within an institution that toful observers is corrupted by money, ideology and the other types of dogma, have you found that a frustration? >> the problem we've had for a long time now is washington works for those who can hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers. if you are a huge corporation if you are a billionaire, boy your voice gets heard in that place. and what you want gets attended to. for ordinary families it just doesn't work so well. so it's really the same kind of fight. i feel like i've been involved in exactl

she struggled for her life in the bathroom. she was wearing fake fingernails. said during the struggle, the fingernails popped off. those fingernails were later found. on one of the fingernails was david evans' dna with 98% certainty. which seems pretty high to me. but, i guess, sometimes dna experts said two percent probability means not related at all. his attorneys said it got there through transference and where -- roy cooper, the attorney general said it got there through transference. saying he picked up the fingernails and put them in the trash which could have happened. except matt picked them up and put them in the trash, not david evans. matt, another of the cocaptains, who lived in the house, said he did that. and the police wondered why if he picks them up and put them into the trash, why david evan'' dna was on the fingernail? with 98% certainty. >> it sounds like you think david evans is guilty? >> i cannot say that because we will never know what happened. as donald rumsfeld said, it could be one of the unknown unknowns. there was never a trial.